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New horn- with PICs

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:05 pm
by billeuph
The new VMI arrived today. I've loaded some pictures of the unwrapping ceremony here.

http://picasaweb.google.com/billeuph/Vmi

I've never unpacked a horn in its factory container, so it was an interesting experience. The truck arrived with the box on a pallet, so there wasn't any "this end up" issue. Inside the box is the largest assortment of bubble wrap and air bags I've ever seen, but no peanuts or foam.

One picture of interest is this comparison of the VMI 3301 and King 2341 (new style), the last one in the album. The VMI is taller, but the bell is slightly smaller. The VMI valves are MUCH larger, required for the larger bore. And the one odd feature of the horn is this odd tuning slide in the lead pipe on the back of the horn, as Rick Denney pointed out to me earlier. You can see this clearly in the third from last image.

The loop at the bottom of the lead pipe has a water key. Good thing, since this is where most of the draining has to be done. I must have emptied it 10 times in 2 hours of playing today, and none of the other water keys drained anything.

A first play test gave some surprises. I've always thought that the new King 2341's are about the easiest horns to play I've ever seen. I'd now say that the King is the second easiest horn to play. In spite of the larger bore, even the high notes on the VMI seem to slot better and play more securely. A great thing for an over-the-hill player like me. Sound is a bit warmer than the King, but not as much as I'd expected. The two horns sound more alike than different.

Mouthpiece selection was also interesting. I expected the German-made VMI to have a European, larger, receiver and the King to have a smaller, American receiver. Of course, I found out that the King has a larger European receiver when I bought it, and now I find that the VMI has the smaller American reciever, so my favorite mouthpiece for the King, a JK 4B, doesn't fit the VMI. So far, I've found that the good old Conn Helleberg is the best choice of the 6 mouthpieces I've tried. The sound is a bit too bright, but the response is really great, and I've always liked the Conn Helleberg feel. Any suggestions from you other VMI/B&S owners? I'd like a Helleberg-like mouthpiece that isn't as bright.

Back to the fun ....

Bill Anderson

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:49 pm
by bearphonium
Sweet. Happy new horn!!

euph

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:57 pm
by billeuph
Yes, I used to play the euphonium, but I "outgrew" it and went to tuba. My former euph section mates blame it on old age. Same thing, isn't it?

Bill

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:31 pm
by ken k
beautiful!

What are you going to do with the King now?

ken "hint hint nudge nudge.... :D" k

King

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:06 am
by billeuph
What are you going to do with the King now?
No plans to sell it, but of course I'm always open to generous offers ...

Bill

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:16 am
by imperialbari
Congratulations!

Which mouthpiece did the factory send with the 3301?

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

mouthpiece

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:37 am
by billeuph
A B&S 18, which looks nearly identical to the Bach 18 that I haven't used in years. It's interesting that the mouthpiece they provided is a large shank mouthpiece and doesn't insert fully into the receiver.

I never liked the feel of the rim on the Bach 18, so I didn't spend much time testing it.

Bill

Re: New horn- with PICs

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:05 pm
by The Big Ben
billeuph wrote:T
Back to the fun ....
Thanks a lot, buddy... way to make us guys who didn't choose to get in on the deal feel bad...You could have at least posted a bad review...

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Nah, good on you. You got a great horn you like at a wonderful price. Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!