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Just Curious -- Jupiter CC
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:59 pm
by Toad Away
I like the sounds from Boston Brass and it looks like
a good 5tet CC.
Thoughts from anyone who has tried one?
Thanks
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:06 pm
by NDSPTuba
I'm curious about this horn as well. If you haven't seen Sam Pilafian's youtube video playing one of these you should check it out. just search Sam Pilafian and it will be at the top
tuba
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:40 pm
by tubazach07
I got to play Andrew Hitz's Jupiter when it was still in the try out stage. I thought it was a good tuba, defintley the best horn jupiter has put out. The low range and high range was nice and listenting to andrew play it in our lesson you would of never thought that it was a jupiter tuba. The only bad thing about it is that the weight was not balanced and every time andrew would put the tuba on my carpet on its bell either he or I would end up grabbing it before it hit the ground. Sadly, these tubas cannot stand up on their bell unless the tuba is up against a chair etc. Hopefully they fixed that.
Zach
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:39 am
by MikeMason
As far as Andrew's sound,I believe their recording was done when he was on a 52j.I may be a recording or 2 behind.Also, don't underestimate a pro's ability to sound good on anything.Endorsements are a part of a lot of pro ensembles' income.It's tough to make it in the music business.You need many income streams.Which is not to say the Jupiter is not a good horn.I have no first hand knowledge...
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:38 am
by willbrett
Tubazach07 wrote:
The only bad thing about it is that the weight was not balanced and every time andrew would put the tuba on my carpet on its bell either he or I would end up grabbing it before it hit the ground. Sadly, these tubas cannot stand up on their bell unless the tuba is up against a chair etc. Hopefully they fixed that.
Am I the only guy out here that NEVER puts his horn down on the bell?
I guess I've just seen too many of them get knocked over or fall over on their own. I always lay my horn down gently... preferably on top of the gig bag (or inside the hard case).
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:36 am
by euphomate
willbrett wrote:Tubazach07 wrote:
The only bad thing about it is that the weight was not balanced and every time andrew would put the tuba on my carpet on its bell either he or I would end up grabbing it before it hit the ground. Sadly, these tubas cannot stand up on their bell unless the tuba is up against a chair etc. Hopefully they fixed that.
Here we go again! Good on Jupiter. They DON'T WANT their tuba placed on it's bell, nor does any other tuba manufacturer. That's not what the bell is there for. During rehrearsal or at a gig, sit it upright in a K&N tuba stand, on it's bottom bow. The footprint of the stand is a hell of a lot less than a decent size bell. I can rest my Besson Sovereign in front between the music stand and my chair, and just lift it up into my lap in two seconds. I don't have to compete with the other tuba players for 19" of floor space to invert the horn on it's bell. You won't get a chair or music stand leg, or a human foot placed on a bell that is upright. And the water drains to the right end!
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:32 am
by tubacrow
But lets be honest Sam Pilafian would sound good on most tubas. but about the Jupiter. I had a chance to lay hands on one, and while it does not have the issue of the second valve slide sticking out like the other jupiter models, but the balance point of the horn is a little odd for me. I just didn't feel comfortable with the horn, but that may just be me.
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:30 pm
by 46K
I tried the jupiterCC (and about 20 other CC's)at the Messe a couple of weeks ago, and I found it to be a VERY good horn for the price.
That being said, it does not come anywhere near a miraphone, a B&S or a besson CC (which will cost about 3 times as much...), but still it IS a very nice instrument. It can be made to sound nice, and in tune, but will require more some effort on behalf of the player.
I found it to be comfortable ( I am 1m74) to hold while playing as well.
I did not try placing it on it's bell, so I do not know if it has been changed in order to make that possible.
Mark
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:34 pm
by 46K
euphomate wrote:willbrett wrote:Tubazach07 wrote:
The only bad thing about it is that the weight was not balanced and every time andrew would put the tuba on my carpet on its bell either he or I would end up grabbing it before it hit the ground. Sadly, these tubas cannot stand up on their bell unless the tuba is up against a chair etc. Hopefully they fixed that.
Here we go again! Good on Jupiter. They DON'T WANT their tuba placed on it's bell, nor does any other tuba manufacturer. That's not what the bell is there for. During rehrearsal or at a gig, sit it upright in a K&N tuba stand, on it's bottom bow. The footprint of the stand is a hell of a lot less than a decent size bell. I can rest my Besson Sovereign in front between the music stand and my chair, and just lift it up into my lap in two seconds. I don't have to compete with the other tuba players for 19" of floor space to invert the horn on it's bell. You won't get a chair or music stand leg, or a human foot placed on a bell that is upright. And the water drains to the right end!
Than why do the majority of the tuba manufacturers at the messe display their instruments on their bells?
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:40 pm
by euphomate
46K wrote:euphomate wrote:willbrett wrote:Tubazach07 wrote:
Easy one. Manufacturers are not going to go and buy a heap of expensive stands for a short trade display. Manufacturers don't spend $$$ on anything they don,t absolutely have to. It's damage done over a long time, often by others. I speak from my own experience. My two Eb horns of the same vintage (90s), one a Willson 3400 TA-4, always rested on the bell which now shows the battle scars and bell distortion of the habit. The other, a Besson Sovereign rested in a K&M 90% of it's life is like new by comparison. I rest my case.