Mouthpiece consistency

[anonymous4]

I know this is an inane question even as I type this, but have any of you out there experienced differences among different mouthpieces of the same type? For instance, one PT-88 playing differently than another PT-88.

I haven't, but I recently heard a big name pro claim that he would individually test out different mouthpieces of the same type and "pick out the good ones." To which I thought: "Huh?"

[TubaCoopa]

If you believe that mouthpiece resonation plays a part in sound production, then theoretically, identical mouthpieces would differ due to imperfections in the metal. However, based on my experience (Ha-ha) mouthpieces do not differ, as the sousas I march with interchange mouthpieces all the time, and there is no sound difference.

[bttmbow]

I don't think it was ME that you RECENTLY heard saying that, but I believe that mouthpieces are somewhat inconsistant, the same way it is with horns (sorry, manufacturers!). That being said, some mouthpieces/horns(of the same design...) "shake hands" better with some than others; everybody's different!

That's all for now,
C

[windshieldbug]

I think that this was without a doubt true when tooling and materials varied quite a bit from lot to lot.

Is it still true? Depends on the processes and materials a manufacture uses.

Does it make a difference? If it makes your playing more confident, then SURE (even if the difference is only in your head!)

[iiipopes]

If you believe that mouthpiece resonation plays a part in sound production, then theoretically, identical mouthpieces would differ due to imperfections in the metal. However, based on my experience (Ha-ha) mouthpieces do not differ, as the sousas I march with interchange mouthpieces all the time, and there is no sound difference.

Ah, but the question is not whether or not there is a difference. The question is whether or not there is an audible difference. And so, with the minute variations from mouthpiece to mouthpiece on something as large as a souzy, probably not.

[TubaCoopa]

If you believe that mouthpiece resonation plays a part in sound production, then theoretically, identical mouthpieces would differ due to imperfections in the metal. However, based on my experience (Ha-ha) mouthpieces do not differ, as the sousas I march with interchange mouthpieces all the time, and there is no sound difference.

Ah, but the question is not whether or not there is a difference. The question is whether or not there is an audible difference. And so, with the minute variations from mouthpiece to mouthpiece on something as large as a souzy, probably not.

A very good point, indeed.

[Nick Pierce]

I've heard the same thing, that a very, very, very prominent player went through a number of the same mouthpiece and picked out "the good ones," all of them very good to begin with. And I heard it straight from the horses mouth, not second hand, so I think there has to be something to it.

[Dan Schultz]

The same mouthpieces can differ slightly simply due to manufacturing tolerances. I would think the biggest fluctuation would be the taper on the shank and the diameter of the shank. Either can cause the mouthpiece to engage the receiver differently. There have been loads of discussions regarding 'the gap'. Rather to start a lengthy discussion about something that has been covered many times before.... the simple answer to the question "can there be variations in two of the same make mouthpieces?" is a resounding "YES".

[iiipopes]

Rather to start a lengthy discussion about something that has been covered many times before.... the simple answer to the question "can there be variations in two of the same make mouthpieces?" is a resounding "YES".

As Bach continues to demonstrate so well -- just go to any store with more than one of a particular model in stock and, as posted above, you can actually see the differences in cup diameter and rim profile from piece to piece.