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It might be old B&S but I can't say for sure.

60s/70s Cerveny/ Amati

Daniel C. Oberloh
Oberloh Woodwind and Brass Works
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NOT by B & S. Most likely Amati.

ottawatuba wrote:..... - "Made in Czechoslovakia" on the ferrule where the mouthpiece is inserted......

I didn't notice this in your first post. The fact that "Czechoslovakia" is spelled out in that form pretty much clinches the manufacture date of between 1920 and 1960. It's probably an Amati but there were many family-owned instrument makers there during those years. If I had to place a bet, I would have to go with the 50's. Lots of music stores here in the US imported school instruments like this one.

Value??? Well... that depends strictly on what a buyer is willing to pay but I would probably list it for $800 and probably take less.

Czechoslovakia existed from 1918 trough 1992.
From the Amati site:
“After the WWI, production quickly recovered »details«. Between the two World Wars, there were 59 musical instrument manufacturers. Among the biggest of these firms were: Bohland&Fuchs, Hüller&Co., A.K.Hüttl, Julius Keilwerth, Karl Püchner, Adolf Rölz, Ant.Kohlert etc. »details«. However, during WWII, many plants ceased to exist, while others served military purposes.
In September 1945, a Cooperative of musical instrument manufacturers was established in Kraslice. And because the production of both wind and stringed instruments was anticipated, the Cooperative was given the name "AMATI".
In 1948 the entire production had been nationalized. Kraslice gradually became a center of wind and percussion instrument manufacture »details«” (»details« indicates hyperlinks within the original page)

This instrument hardly is from the first end of that time bracket (1920-1993), as it then would not have had the stop corks sitting in a horseshoe. The S-links were used on the cheaper versions until after 1980, maybe longer.

The low-set leadpipe and the bare minimum number of valves tell this instrument being intended for marching. However this tuba shares a design feature with current Cerveny’s (Amati when cheaply equipped). It has the long straight entry- and exit-tubing around the valve block. The parts of this low-end model also were used for the versions with more valves and better valve transmissions. There is plenty of space for a 4th rotor after the 3rd and a 5th rotor before the 1st.

If the branches are not too compromised by dents, scratches, and/or red rot, it might be worthwhile to scrap the valves and install 4 or 5 better ones. The Czech tradition of very thin brass would give basis for a very responsive instrument.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

imperialbari wrote:Czechoslovakia existed from 1918 trough 1992.

That may be true, Klauss. But... at what point would those receivers have been marked with 'GDR' or with nothing at all?

Belltrouble wrote:That may be true, Klauss. But... at what point would those receivers have been marked with 'GDR' or with nothing at all?

Dan,GDR indicates DDR,the former eastern part of germany!!!
German democratic republic-Deutsche Demokratische Republik

Yeah... I don't know much about the exact political boundaries but the point I was making is that many of the European instrument makers left their homes and eventually settled into what was at one time termed as GDR and then eventually Germany. Cheers, Kurt,

btw,did you have a look at that waterkey hinge?[/quote]

Yeah... I've seen that type of waterkey before.... complete with the flat spring. I had a Czech tenorhorn with an identical waterkey setup. I also saw it on what the TNFJ determined to be a Bohland & Fuchs 'Kaisertuba'. Not very decorative, is it?

Were there any Polish instrument makers?