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Who else out there makes anything close to a Bach 12? I'm liking the Bach 12 for my Kalison DS CC, but it seams slightly, well, "unrefined".

Thanks!

J.c.S.

I'm not sure what a reverse-taper throat is; it soundslike it gets smaller from the throat to the end of the shank

J.c.

Hmm. Large bowl. Large throat. Large Backbore. Bruno Tilz? Seriously, try some of the PT's, like the 48.

The cup size is close to a Marcinkiewicz 18. Throat bore on the Marc. 18 is 8.20mm

I personally like the GW Caver for my DS... just a thought

when owned my kalsion DS i tried a bach 12 and it seemed stuffy. But, its a preference. I used a loud Lm-7 and a pt-48. the pt-48 had a slightly lighter tone and seemed to hinder response by a fraction. The Lm-7 was my favorite. It got a nice deep big sound the was well in tune and responded excellent. i thought it would be to powerful for it but it was great in all dynamic ranges.

Miraphone TU29 design feels pretty close but just a little bit bigger than the 12.

andrew the tuba player wrote:when owned my kalsion DS i tried a bach 12 and it seemed stuffy. But, its a preference. I used a loud Lm-7 and a pt-48. the pt-48 had a slightly lighter tone and seemed to hinder response by a fraction. The Lm-7 was my favorite. It got a nice deep big sound the was well in tune and responded excellent. i thought it would be to powerful for it but it was great in all dynamic ranges.

It is a little stuffy on my end, but it's comfortable and the ensembles I play with it prefer it in side-by-side tests. I'd like to find something which plays a little better on my end, so knowing what's close is very helpful.

Bloke, thanks for the definition - Interesting idea....

J.c.S.

Maybe it feels "unrefined" because you didn't pay half a million bucks for the mouthpiece!!!!!

Please, oh please God, I'm just kidding!