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Hey guys. I play on a Yamaha 822, and my first valve has been sticking. I am aware that Yamaha's are notorious for this but my question is: About what is the price range for looking at this kind of repair?

Thanks in advance,

-Drake

beforeforever12 wrote:Hey guys. I play on a Yamaha 822, and my first valve has been sticking. I am aware that Yamaha's are notorious for this but my question is: About what is the price range for looking at this kind of repair? Thanks in advance, -Drake

It's not likely ANYONE will respond with a price. But.... I'll certainly bet that the first viable response you'll get is "what kind of valve oil are you using?".

So.... what kind of valve oil are you using?

Viper Oil.

I had both of my private instructors look at it and told me it's not major, but something I should have the local tech look at.

beforeforever12 wrote:Viper Oil.

I had both of my private instructors look at it and told me it's not major, but something I should have the local tech look at.

Unless there is a HUGE HUGE underlying problem I wouldn't be too worried about the price. Just take it in somewhere have someone take a look at it.

beforeforever12 wrote:Viper Oil.

I had both of my private instructors look at it and told me it's not major, but something I should have the local tech look at.

Don't rush straight down to your repairman. I know this sounds sort of 'hokey'. But... Yamaha has a tendency to fit their pistons very tightly. There is very little room for even the smallest particle of lint or dust.

First..... make sure those valves (and the casings) are perfectly clean and then try using Yamaha valve oil. (no kidding!).

TubaTinker wrote:

beforeforever12 wrote:Viper Oil.

I had both of my private instructors look at it and told me it's not major, but something I should have the local tech look at.

Don't rush straight down to your repairman. I know this sounds sort of 'hokey'. But... Yamaha has a tendency to fit their pistons very tightly. There is very little room for even the smallest particle of lint or dust.

First..... make sure those valves (and the casings) are perfectly clean and then try using Yamaha valve oil. (no kidding!).

I'll second that - their oil seems to suite their instruments like a glove. Also, their valve guides wear our almost instantly. Nab a set from a local shop, and that may hel as well - they can be replaced without tools.

YMMV

J.c.S.

I have a horn on which the rotors were so precisely made and fitted that when the horn was new, it was common for a rotor to get vacuum locked in the paddle down position to the extent that I had to pull the slide to release it. If I used Viper oil on this horn, the rotors would begin to drag. When I stopped using Viper oil, the drag on the rotors went away. I'm guessing that the teflon in Viper oil adds enough of a coating to cause a close fit valve to drag.

TubaTinker wrote:First..... make sure those valves (and the casings) are perfectly clean and then try using Yamaha valve oil. (no kidding!).

When I started doing that with my 822 F tuba, my first valve sluggishness went away. Another vote for TubaTinker's advice.

Cheers,
Allen