Sent Wrong Music?

dopey · Post by **dopey** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:52 pm

like I said in a previous post I orded a couple pieces, introduction and dance and vocalise.

Both finally came yestarday.

The introduction and dance's score is written with piano and then trombone/baritone range, but includes the tuba part by itself.. all fine.

However, vocalise has a solo in C(which is 1 octave above what tuba should be.) then solo in Eb (bass/treble parts) and a Solo in Bb baritone part(treble).

the score is written piano with trombone/baritone range. Starting on the Bb above the staff.

At first Ithouhgt maybe thats how it was suppost to be, or I would have to bump it down. But then realizing the treble clef parts. And since I can read treble clef baritone I realized that it starts on a C in the staff, which should be the Bb in the staff for tuba(right?) so it seems I was sent the wrong piece? was i sent the baritone version?

Do I need to send this back? or is this the tuba part and i need to rewrite it out?

winston · Post by **winston** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:50 pm

dopey · Post by **dopey** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:56 pm

I can read treble clef, my lil sis plays trumpet and i've taught myself that way.

I knew this solo came for baritone(pretty sure anyway) and since it doesn't say anywhere on it "tuba" I wanted to make sure I got the right one.

this actally confused me since it came with a Eb thats in bass clef as well. I always thought bass clef was non transposing?

i've played a bit of it reading either treble clef, or the octave high part.. sounds like a great piece. but i'd like to make sure I have the right piece.. since reading it in bass clef and my range be easier/faster to learn.

winston · Post by **winston** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:27 pm

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:31 pm

winston wrote:bass cleff is non transposing

Not always! Nowadays a lot of publishers are shipping "world parts" that include transposed BC as used in the Low Countries.

A lot of de Haske stuff comes that way.

dopey · Post by **dopey** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:31 pm

what I thought, but there IS a Eb BASS clef part included over vocalise..

Starts on a G I believe above the staff(trombone range)..

Does anyone else have this piece? it has a picture of a guy with cherries on his head and stuff..

If this is the tuba part thats fine I can read the treble part or trombone part either one.. just it will take longer to learn as im not as fluent with treble as I am bass in my range. I guess I can just rewrite it.. but i'd hate to do that if this is the wrong instrument part

dopey · Post by **dopey** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:41 pm

If you mean reading a trombone part and playing it a octave lower on tuba by sight reading. yes/no. I can do it yes however I am more likely to make a mistake then reading normal tuba music.

My sister plays trombone, and I read/play with her alot so i've become fairly good at it.

Like I said if this IS the correct music for tuba I can deal with it, but if not.. shouldn't I just send it back instead of trying to 'make due'?

I wanted to find out here first if I had the right music or not, as I figured the distrubitor wouldn't know.

dave · Post by **dave** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:17 pm

Not always! Nowadays a lot of publishers are shipping "world parts" that include transposed BC as used in the Low Countries.

Yes, and it is downright confusing! The parts labeled "C euphonium" are non-transposed, and the parts labeled "Bb euphonium" are transposed.

Dave

TheChiefofStaph · Post by **TheChiefofStaph** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:18 pm

Jacob Morgan wrote:what I thought, but there IS a Eb BASS clef part included over vocalise..

Starts on a G I believe above the staff(trombone range)..

Does anyone else have this piece? it has a picture of a guy with cherries on his head and stuff..

That would be a Sheridan arrangement from the Bon-Bons series (arrangements off his Bon-Bons album). I own a couple things from this series (though not the Vocalise) and they all have parts for "Solo in C" as the first page. The thing is that Sheridan plays this whole album on an Eb and so the parts will look high when transposed for C. The recording doesn't sound like it starts on a high G but it very well could (he makes it sound quite effortless). So, no, your part is probably right. If the range doesn't work for you, take it down the octave.

Hope this helps!

dopey · Post by **dopey** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:34 am

cheif thats what I first thought.

But, it has a treble clef baritone, which I can read.

The first note is the C IN the staff. Which translates to the equivilent Bb IN the staff on tuba right? And also for TROMBONE/Baritone is the Bb on top the staff.

If the treble baritone started on a high C, then yes I can see it maybe starting out high, but unless im reading this wrong the tuba should start on a Bb in th staff..

and yes u nailed it, its the bon bons series.