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Bob1062 wrote:1926 (supposedly Conn Eb), modern pitch or not? It LOOKS like it to me, but of course I haven't played it.

By modern pitch do you mean "A=440??"

I would assume that since it's a Conn.........BUT....that's an assumption....

If the sum of the pushed in 3rd valve loop plus the diameter of the valve casing is 32.6" or a tiny bit more, then this Eb tuba is in low pitch.

K

Dunno about the pitch. But... all that green stuff coming out of the bell would concern me

TubaTinker wrote:Dunno about the pitch. But... all that green stuff coming out of the bell would concern me

Dan, you're on to his secret! Trickily though, he's turned the picture upside down so that we don't know that he's found a way to grow tuba's from seeds...he just can't get the genetics right so they're always in modern pitch...

Rob "still having problems getting vegetables to grow well(except the zucchini's)"

Really there is no way of knowing whether this horn is high or low pitch with out playing it or without a mark. Many horns came with 2 tuning slides and "pull marks " on the svalve slides. 1926 is kinda late for high pitch bands though. Remember, when pitch dropped at the end of WWI it went down to A=437 so many "low pitch" horns will still reguire some modification to play at modern pitch.
mike

Something's not quite right about that picture. In playing attitude, the horn should be leaning to the players left. The waterkeys are facing the wrong direction to drain properly. No big deal on the third slide because all you've gotta do is turn the slide around. However... I think the leadpipe tuning slide on those horns is conical. Meaning that one leg of that slide is larger than the other. Am I missing something here?

TubaTinker wrote:Something's not quite right about that picture. In playing attitude, the horn should be leaning to the players left. The waterkeys are facing the wrong direction to drain properly. No big deal on the third slide because all you've gotta do is turn the slide around. However... I think the leadpipe tuning slide on those horns is conical. Meaning that one leg of that slide is larger than the other. Am I missing something here?

just from earshot, it seems that they look the same size....but that's just a visual guess from an untalented looker-at-stuff person. Of course, I would just think that the slides are just in backwards and not conical......I think we'd all just need a hand on the horn....



I'd take it...gladly...for a several......year period...

TubaTinker wrote:Something's not quite right about that picture. In playing attitude, the horn should be leaning to the players left. The waterkeys are facing the wrong direction to drain properly. No big deal on the third slide because all you've gotta do is turn the slide around. However... I think the leadpipe tuning slide on those horns is conical. Meaning that one leg of that slide is larger than the other. Am I missing something here?

Conn made several models of euphoni and tubas with a mouthpipe-loop slide and both sides of the slide being the same diameter... I know that sounds more trombone-like than conical, but they did it none-the-less.

Both sides of the mouthpipe-loop on my 1907 double-belled baritone are, for instance. It isn't until after the valve that the larger tuning slides are conical and dual-bore.

So I think that in the photo, they're just in backwards!

Bob1062 wrote:1926 (supposedly Conn Eb), modern pitch or not? It LOOKS like it to me, but of course I haven't played it.

Bob, play it to make sure. Conn made High Pitch horns, Low Pitch horns, and horns that could be either. If it was convertible, that mouthpipe slide with the waterkey is right where they would have done it, and that short slide would be the High Pitch one (with a longer, interchangeable one being the Low Pitch one). Often, if that were the case, Conn would have lines engraved on the valve slides to indicate how far out they should be pulled if the horn was set up for low pitch.

If it IS in High Pitch, maybe that tuning slide's long enough to bring it down to 440 with your mouthpiece. Eb's of that vintage are very sensitive to mouthpiece usage, as I'm sure you've found out.

So you won't know for sure until you try.

Bob, why do you want a 3 valve Eb? False tones won't serve you all that well in anything but a very small group situation. Time to grow up and play a REAL tuba...

If this little Eb tuba is anywhere close to the qualities of my slightly older Eb 26K sousaphone, then the buyer has done a buy, which I will consider good. The Conn’s of that era had mother of pearl inserts in the holes of the valve bottom caps just to underscore the proud craftsmanship.

Klaus

imperialbari wrote:The Conn’s of that era had mother of pearl inserts in the holes of the valve bottom caps just to underscore the proud craftsmanship.

So that's why my sousaphone has those.