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4 players for 3 sousaphones in the DC Marine band?

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:11 pm
by imperialbari
From one of the horn lists I got this link:

http://gigapan.org/viewGigapanFullscree ... 2b4b06233c

The event is back a couple of weeks ago, so it is not the news portion I am out after. However zooming brings you very close to the 3 sousaphones in the back left of the band. I don’t know the players or their names. What puzzles me is the small portion of a 4th face right behind the 2nd player from the left. I see no section-relevant instrument related to that face.

Klaus

Re: 4 players for 3 sousaphones in the DC Marine band?

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:16 pm
by The Jackson
No horn on the face? Huh...


...he must be a trumpet player! :mrgreen:

Re: 4 players for 3 sousaphones in the DC Marine band?

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:20 pm
by rocksanddirt
hi klaus!

it's the same guy. the image is a composite of 220 or so photos taken as quickly as could be by the photographer.

there are a couple of those kinds of images, people with two heads, or with a face on each side of their head.

Re: 4 players for 3 sousaphones in the DC Marine band?

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:31 pm
by poomshanka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigapan

The Gigapan system uses a motion-controlled camera to take many precisely aimed images that are then stitched together as a whole. The artifact you're seeing (the apparent second face) is actually just a dupe of the second tuba player's face. Perhaps he moved forward slightly as the pictures were being taken, causing his face to appear in two different shots. I suspect that if you scrutinize other faces/bodies in the crowd, you'll see similar duping effects.

I'm not terribly familiar with the Gigapan process, other than what I just read on Wikipedia. From start to finish, I don't know how many component shots were taken and stitched together for this single image, or how long the entire image capture process lasted. When you're stitching together images of this nature featuring things that don't always stay perfectly still (wiggly people), things like this are bound to happen. These are the types of details retouchers will most often catch, but if it was a program that did all this (i.e. no human eyes on it), then things like this are inevitable. The software aligns via numbers, and not any type of "visual reckoning".

...D

Re: 4 players for 3 sousaphones in the DC Marine band?

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:50 pm
by TonyTuba
That would be Theile after a box lunch

Re: 4 players for 3 sousaphones in the DC Marine band?

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:00 am
by imperialbari
Yes, I see now, that it is the same player. I had looked for seams in the photo, but had found no one being obvious. As the overlaps hardly are made individually, the sousaphones must have been held very steady.

I have had no problems entering the web sites of the DC bands of the Navy, the Army, or the Air Force, I cannot enter the pages of the DC Marine band. This has happened a couple of times over the last month, so maybe there is a filter against foreign access.

I noted that the Marine band had divided its horn section in two, so I wondered if there were more sousaphones behind the tower from where the President speaks.

Klaus

Re: 4 players for 3 sousaphones in the DC Marine band?

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:00 am
by Rick F
imperialbari wrote:<snip> I noted that the Marine band had divided its horn section in two, so I wondered if there were more sousaphones behind the tower from where the President speaks.

Klaus
Yes, there were other tubas (sousaphones) on the other side. See the post by Tom Holtz in this thread:

viewtopic.php?p=278415#p278415

Re: 4 players for 3 sousaphones in the DC Marine band?

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:01 am
by joshwirt
Mark Thiele is the 2-headed tuba player in question, though I only remember him having 1 head when we were at King's Dominion many years ago.....

-Josh Wirt

Re: 4 players for 3 sousaphones in the DC Marine band?

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:53 am
by windshieldbug
Cheez. that's two-faced enough to be a conductor...