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Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:54 pm
by tokuno
I outfitted my sousaphone with solar panels, so I received an additional carbon allowance for a total volume increase of 60 liters per minute, but the closed circuit rebreather I'm installing on all my horns with its included CO2 scrubber totally eliminates my restriction. I'm having a little trouble with the acoustic properties of my horns, though. It's probably my mouthpiece. :D

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:10 pm
by Tubaryan12
Don't forget, as a tuba player, you must also account for your methane emissions as well. :shock:

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:34 pm
by Alex C
Actually, I think this was addressed last year on ebay. Someone was selling a carbon emissions certificate for practice. Obviously, an idea whose time has come considering the topic of your post. Let's all join hands for a chorus of "Kum Ba Ya," shall we?

I'd say more but I need to go back and practice "Fountains" another dozen more times.

Hold the presses, I'm editing the post because I found it:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21224&p=177478&hili ... te#p177478" target="_blank" target="_blank

here's the Tubenet reference and, lo and behold, it's posted by none other than bloke.

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:51 pm
by Alex C
Hold on, hold on. That's not the way it works:

A car with poor mileage gets hit with a penalty tax e.g., a Hummer; a car like the Prius gets a tax credit. ERGO: players with inefficient use of air should pay the penalty. The efficient players should actually get money from the government.

Or maybe it should be like in Oregon where they are considering a "per mile" tax on cars, as if a gas tax isn't a "per mile" tax. Tuba players who play more notes would leave a bigger footprint no matter how efficient/inefficient they are. In that case, a band tubist would pay a higher carbon tax than an orchestral tubist (can anyone say "New World Symphony?").

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:11 pm
by sloan
bloke wrote:

If I plant a hickernut tree, how many minutes may I play loud without paying a penalty?
Newly planted trees produce CO2 - so this doesn't help you at all.

MATURE trees help, so what you want to do is save mature trees that someone else wants to cut down. Planting new trees is no good.

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:22 pm
by Todd S. Malicoate
sloan wrote:Newly planted trees produce CO2 - so this doesn't help you at all.

MATURE trees help, so what you want to do is save mature trees that someone else wants to cut down. Planting new trees is no good.
And yet other studies will tell you that mature trees are already saturated with enough CO2 and unlikely to absorb much more.

Fascinating.

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:18 pm
by tbn.al
bloke wrote: If I plant a hickernut tree, how many minutes may I play loud without paying a penalty?
It has taken some real digging but I have finally identified the section of the code that deals with the hickernut exemption. You are allowed exactly the number of minutes you spend cracking and meating the hickernuts, but only the ones that you send to your tubanet friends.

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:48 pm
by imperialbari
I get bloke’s concerns, but isn’t it so in your country also, that you are compensated, if you store a considerable amount of solid CO2 (which would give that cool feel also)?

I guess that Pachy would be in the know.

K

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:52 pm
by sloan
bloke wrote:
sloan wrote: And yet other studies will tell you that mature trees are already saturated with enough CO2...
No, I didn't.

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:35 pm
by The Jackson
And is not the usual follow-up to loud playing C2H6O?

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:41 pm
by Toad Away
I am so confused:

Since retiring I seem to play a lot less on my tuba.

But since moving to San Antonio I seem to consume
a LOT more Mexican food.

Pleeeze Al Gore, tell me what to do :!:

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:38 pm
by ken k
Must we not also figure in how much CO2 was used in the production of our horns? Would that mean that the manufacture of a 5 valved BAT would create a larger carbon footprint than say a three valved 3/4 sized horn (much less raw material and time in manufacture)? Or what if i buy my horn used? or buy a horn that was reconditioned and spared from the land fill?

There is more to being green than simple carbon emissions. I drive a 10 year old car that gets 30 mpg. I figure I am keeping over a ton of metal and plastic out of a junk yard. That should count for something right? i also play a 35 year tuba and a 90 year old helicon.

on the other hand i guess I am not helping the national economy by not buying new cars and new tubas, although i am keeping my local mechanic and horn repairer in business!

k

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:41 pm
by ken k
this whole discussion is full of hot air.... :tuba: :tuba: :tuba: :tuba: :tuba: :tuba: :tuba: ffffffff!!!!!!!

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:42 pm
by ken k
besides if you play too loudly the musicians union has to worry about OSHA regulations and safe sound volume levels...
k

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:13 am
by imperialbari
Tubaryan12 wrote:Don't forget, as a tuba player, you must also account for your methane emissions as well. :shock:
What about the N2O emissions?

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:46 am
by Kevin Hendrick
bloke wrote:
the elephant wrote:I deal in large-scale distribution of CH4 so the exchange of O2 for CO2 holds little interest for me.
When participating in a regional honor band (in the 11th grade...c. 1973) a 12th grade colleague of mine (trombone player, of course) suddenly felt the urge to do some CH4 broadcasting...

...so just before our band was about to play (when the "B" and "C" band kids were seated out in the audience) he walked quickly down the center aisle of the auditorium - releasing CH4 all the way down. As there were some ceiling fans in that auditorium that were all directly above the center aisle...and as that auditorium was jam-packed with parents/students (c. 2000 souls), that may have possibly been an unofficial world record for the number of people who were forced to share in the experience someone else's CH4 expulsion. :shock:
"Crop dusting" on a massive scale! Impressssive ... mossst impressssive ... :lol:

Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:50 am
by tubatooter1940
Since clean, breathable air is in short supply, the government should claim it and tax it - 5 cents for a normal breath - 10 cents a gasp.
As a lifelong blatt weasel fart horn operator, and old geezer methane producer, I'm gonna be broke almost immediately.