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With Love

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:42 am
by pierso20
When I first was purchasing and owning tubas there was a time when perfect LOOKS was a huge impact (in some ways it still is.) After all, if I am going to put down $4000 for a used horn it would be nice that it was mostly in tact (and definitely better be for $9000.) It seems that because we play bathtubs we like them to be aesthetically pleasing in addition to whatever positive playing characteristics we can get. Of course, I definitely have some love for the new/shiny kinda horn. After all, it's all yours from the beginning.

My current CC is a Mirafone 1290. It is a little beat up, missing lacquer on some places, has some "scars" from wrinkle removal...but it sounds SO nice. Every day I have played it, I love the sound more. It actually compares with a PT6 in size and sound and ease of play (at least in my opinion.) Would I like a new and shiny? Maybe someday. But this thing really does what I want. Is it a bit of work due to it's open wrap and large size? Yes. Do I wan't a 4/4 CC? HECK NO!

My other horn is the CFB 653 5-I. It was a new and shiny (and relatively still is) at the time I bought it over a year ago. Now there are some scratches, 2 dents.... :( (Both quite small but sad non-the less) and some lacquer wear from my right arm. But this was MY horn. It's my baby that I am the sole owner of. In fact, this has made the wear and tear easy to deal with. To me, especially the lacquer wear, make the horn more mine. It's my sweat and work that caused the wear and makes me love the horn more.

So why did I write all this? Our horn will become old :P , and things will happen to them. They may not always stay pretty but for me it makes me love it all the more. This is a vastly different thought than I have had in the past (since I was a shiny horn kinda guy for a long time). So just a thought for others here who maybe are in the shiny-new need category. (Don't worry, I know theres plenty who play on an 'only mother could love' beast :D )

Re: With Love

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:09 am
by Bill Troiano
Kinda like a spouse. I"ll take my nagging, I mean my Gnagey 4/4 CC over any other 4/4 CC out there - till death do us part.

Re: With Love

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:43 pm
by Rick Denney
I can admire new tubas that are pristine and shiny. But if I buy an old tuba, I'm just as happy to be able to read its history in its scars and scratches. That doesn't mean I'll leave the dents in place, but I don't want to go to any trouble to remove the scars left by removing those dents.

And removing those scars requires either extraordinary measures (read: very expensive) or it requires removing a lot of metal. Neither of those processes appeals to me much.

But I don't look at the dents I installed as a mark of personal history. I bought my Yamaha 621 F tuba new, and that tuba is the only member of my collection that has earned what it cost in terms of pay gigs. The scars on it are more a testament to my clumsiness than to my accomplishments, and those accomplishments would be no less sweet if that tuba was still completely pristine.

I think my friends expected my Holton to come back from Memphis looking new. That was not at all my objective, nor my instruction to Joe. What I wanted was an instrument that looked like it had been used but kept in good repair for its 40-ish year life. I don't see those scars in that instrument as a sign of my own clumsiness, because those scars weren't the result of my negligence.

Thus, while I'm happy with my old tubas that I bought late in their lives to show their scars, the tubas I bought new I wish still looked new.

Rick "who currently only owns one tuba since it was new" Denney

Re: With Love

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:53 pm
by iiipopes
Let's see:
Besson: 1971
186: 1971
38K: 1930
King Silvertone cornet: @1942
Besson 2-20 trumpet: 1969
King 3B bone: 1963
My dad's Super 20 if I ever recover it: 1953
I think I agree with what pierso20 is saying.

Re: With Love

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:02 pm
by pierso20
iiipopes wrote:Let's see:
Besson: 1971
186: 1971
38K: 1930
King Silvertone cornet: @1942
Besson 2-20 trumpet: 1969
King 3B bone: 1963
My dad's Super 20 if I ever recover it: 1953
I think I agree with what pierso20 is saying.
It's just an interesting thing to think about.

There is something fascinating about old horns...a definite history to it that makes it interesting.