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Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:45 pm
by the elephant
Ian, that is how I post every one of them. PhotoBucket is removing that capability. And you can no longer post access to the single photo. The are redirecting direct links to a PhotoBucket page where it is shown as a part of the complete album. Now you have to click on a photo two or three times to get to the actual photo itself at full size. And this will soon disappear, too. It is their new look. I hate it and have fought with them for six months about it. I give up and will seek out a new photo hosting service this summer when I have time to migrate everything and update certain links to photos in threads here.

If you would, please go back and delete that link. I specifically did not want the full-sized image inline in this thread. I hate images too large to display properly in this BBS's software. That is why I used the URL tag and not the IMG tag, later linking to the same photo from my Facebook album that had already been resized. Thanks for deleting that link, sir!

EDIT: Screw it. I put in the full sized photo. This is so old that no one will probably see this anyway.

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:47 pm
by the elephant
Tubajug wrote:
the elephant wrote:Current stable of horns I use at work. I *am* in the photo, too. About six times... :tuba:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/periphery/file_zpsca3eb027.jpg


That's a great lookin' stable Wade! Just curious, do you prefer pistons or did that just come about by happenstance?

I greatly prefer rotors, actually. This just happened over time. All my horns used to be rotary tubas. And I still much prefer the shorter stroke and feel, and slurs and such.

By the way, I decided to rebuild the BAT's valve section like I did the Eb's. The silver tubing is all wonky and curved. Slide alignment is a big issue on this tuba. The plating was bad to begin with and much worse now. And my homemade 4th needs some revision anyway. So this summer I will use all new tubing on 1-4, and I will get a larger rotor to place after the main, removing the one in the leadpipe altogether. So, new leadpipe, too, I guess.

After that those two tubas will *really* look like siblings! :tuba:

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:25 pm
by bloke
I never quite understood, Wade...

...Is your York Eb tuba's new valveset bore 21/32" or 11/16" ?

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:14 pm
by the elephant
bloke wrote:I never quite understood, Wade...

...Is your York Eb tuba's new valveset bore 21/32" or 11/16" ?


Some is original .689" with a bit of .687" in the odd shaped bits from a King donor. The bulk of it is new .689" tubing. As you know, it only really matters if you need two parts that do not fit together to fit together. I will replace a lot of this and adjust the 4th circuit layout a bit to unify everything, as per my OCD nature. ;-)

I believe that some "toobuh sellin' perfessers" might call this "feature" something like "dual bore" and tack a grand onto the price. HAHAHA!!!

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:03 am
by bigtubby
Cell pix count? Showing a friend the nice new valve caps tonight ...
Image

Tungsten lights and the honey colored logs you can't even tell that I haven't plated the caps yet. :D

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:27 pm
by Stryk
Image

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:32 pm
by Heavy_Metal
bigtubby wrote:Cell pix count? Showing a friend the nice new valve caps tonight ...
Image

Tungsten lights and the honey colored logs you can't even tell that I haven't plated the caps yet. :D


How about one of you showing off the Schuster? :tuba:

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:36 pm
by Heavy_Metal
Working out some last-minute details before this morning's Easter service- that's the Sonora, for those who aren't familiar. :tuba:

Clockwise starting to the right of the tuba: Katie Storey, French Horn; Jeff Shields, Trumpet, Rob Storey, Trumpet, Bill Stephens, Trumpet. Organist is Tyler Horton, pianist is Jo Ann Day.

Photo credit- The Lovely Naoko.

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:38 pm
by Heavy_Metal
Stryk wrote:Image


That's the Alex?

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:46 pm
by k001k47
the elephant wrote:
bigbob wrote:elephant.. I noticed different angles on your piston set ups ...which one ergonomically fits you best??BB

The Yamaha is absolute crap.


Sell it to me. :mrgreen:

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:39 am
by Stryk
Heavy_Metal wrote:That's the Alex?


That IS the Alex. My first performance with it was Sunday morning - what a sound it gives me!

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:09 am
by bigbob
bigtubby wrote:Cell pix count? Showing a friend the nice new valve caps tonight ...
Image

Tungsten lights and the honey colored logs you can't even tell that I haven't plated the caps yet. :D

Great picture lovly looking horn....Why do you call your self "bigtubby?" you look mighty thin<s>

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:04 pm
by jeopardymaster
Oxymoron - a muted Neptune. Note that I am using the 2nd valve kicker - so yes, it CAN come in handy. [url]Image[/url]

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:15 pm
by jeopardymaster
Nice Alex, Terry. Looks like your bell might flare just a bit more than mine or else starts later, but that might be an optical illusion. My bell finishes off at just a shade under 16.5 inches.

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:56 pm
by the elephant
k001k47 wrote:
the elephant wrote:The Yamaha is absolute crap.


Sell it to me. :mrgreen:


Noel, regarding my "crap" comment:

A lot of people do not understand why a lot of owners of this particular tuba complain about the ergonomics.

So your post will allow me to explain about the main complaints that I have read and that line up with my own.

1. Valve angle...

The valve positioning is terrible on these tubas, making the pinky bend so that it is *inside* where the index finger is when the horn is held at the proper angle. So your wrist is bend downwards at a 55º to 60º angle if you hold it one common way or close to 45º if you hold it in what seems to be the other popular way for this tuba. Either way is very bad for things like CTS or arthritis; very sharp pains are the result.

My moving the thumb ring more than an inch "north" on the slide tube and then reshaping the lever to fit relieved a lot of stress on my wrist by opening up the claw-like finger position Yamaha saw fit to require of the player, allowing my arm to fall into a slightly different position and thereby removing the pain in my pinky-to-wrist tendon.

2. first slide...

The first slide is awkward to manipulate while holding the tuba. I added a pull ring to the 1st slide that puts my left hand in what at first seemed to be an odd place, but Yamaha did not design in a place for your left hand, so moving the 1st slide was always pretty awkward, anyway. I simply made it reachable from a location that was easier to maintain for long stretches of time.

3. Leadpipe height...

I moved the leadpipe up about 4" to remove a good bit of the painful "hunchback" that a tall player must maintain to get way down the the mouthpiece (as placed by Yamaha). Doing this required me to add about 3" of length to the leadpipe with a small angled piece at the end to allow the pipe to come up at a slightly sharper angle, which gave it another inch of distance from the bottom bow. It is not tall enough for me, but it is tall enough for most. It is much more comfortable. This also made my very sharp horn much more manageable. Many of these must be played with the main slide almost all the way out. (Maybe they had a 440 and 442 versions at the same time and did not send them to the correct markets? I have always wondered about this. The sharp ones are shorter than the ones that were obviously cut for A=440 - I have measured five of these horns besides my own, so two that were in tune with the main out an inch or so and four that needed the main out about four inches or more. Adding length to my main slide allows me to play this tuba in tune with my slide out about one inch. Prior to this leadpipe mod I had the main slide out so far that it would be pushed in by the top of my right leg as I played. So this is *much* better.

4. Overall tone...

These tubas are über bland in tone. Everyone *loves* them except for tuba players. I played an Alex 163 and wanted a tone more like that from my Yamaha. I used many mouthpieces over the years until I stumbled across the Laskey 30F, which helps me to generate more of the overtones that seem to add roundness and color to the sound. So now the tone is not so frustrating and the occasional characteristic-yet-unexpected "bark" these horns sometimes emit has gone away completely.

This mouthpiece and these three mods have turned this into a longterm keeper for me. I have owned it for over 12 years now and have no intention of selling it unless I come across an awfully good F tuba and have the money for it on hand.

So no. I will not sell it. It is MINE! MUWAHAHAHAAAAA!!! :tuba:

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:55 pm
by butch
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My wee girls inside my sousaphone bell when she was about two months.

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Me playing children songs for my wee girl, now 19 months. She enjoys the music. She calles my instrument «buba» and she exactly knows where the mouthpiece belongs to and how to press the valves. :)

I think I gonna bring her close to low brass as early as possible. :oops:

And yes she's wearing a KISS-T-shirt! Just because I liked it! :tuba:

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:51 pm
by Stryk
jeopardymaster wrote:Nice Alex, Terry. Looks like your bell might flare just a bit more than mine or else starts later, but that might be an optical illusion. My bell finishes off at just a shade under 16.5 inches.

I will measure it later and let you know! Never have.

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:59 pm
by bigbob
Here's a pic of me and the Gnagey!I'm still trying to get used to it...Soooo many different combinations with the addition of the 5valve(rotor)...I'm getting some fantastic low notes that I didn't seem to do with the 3J...by the way the bell is 19 1/2".....Someday maybe I'll get up the courage to play with a group untill then I'm just going to keep on learning!......BB

Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:17 pm
by AndyCat
Myself and my Yamaha Neo BBb at an Intrada Brass CD recording session.

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Re: Me & My Tuba, Add You & Yours

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:21 pm
by jorgeskid
the elephant wrote:
k001k47 wrote:
the elephant wrote:The Yamaha is absolute crap.


Sell it to me. :mrgreen:


Noel, regarding my "crap" comment:

A lot of people do not understand why a lot of owners of this particular tuba complain about the ergonomics.

So your post will allow me to explain about the main complaints that I have read and that line up with my own.

1. Valve angle...

The valve positioning is terrible on these tubas, making the pinky bend so that it is *inside* where the index finger is when the horn is held at the proper angle. So your wrist is bend downwards at a 55º to 60º angle if you hold it one common way or close to 45º if you hold it in what seems to be the other popular way for this tuba. Either way is very bad for things like CTS or arthritis; very sharp pains are the result.

My moving the thumb ring more than an inch "north" on the slide tube and then reshaping the lever to fit relieved a lot of stress on my wrist by opening up the claw-like finger position Yamaha saw fit to require of the player, allowing my arm to fall into a slightly different position and thereby removing the pain in my pinky-to-wrist tendon.

2. first slide...

The first slide is awkward to manipulate while holding the tuba. I added a pull ring to the 1st slide that puts my left hand in what at first seemed to be an odd place, but Yamaha did not design in a place for your left hand, so moving the 1st slide was always pretty awkward, anyway. I simply made it reachable from a location that was easier to maintain for long stretches of time.

3. Leadpipe height...

I moved the leadpipe up about 4" to remove a good bit of the painful "hunchback" that a tall player must maintain to get way down the the mouthpiece (as placed by Yamaha). Doing this required me to add about 3" of length to the leadpipe with a small angled piece at the end to allow the pipe to come up at a slightly sharper angle, which gave it another inch of distance from the bottom bow. It is not tall enough for me, but it is tall enough for most. It is much more comfortable. This also made my very sharp horn much more manageable. Many of these must be played with the main slide almost all the way out. (Maybe they had a 440 and 442 versions at the same time and did not send them to the correct markets? I have always wondered about this. The sharp ones are shorter than the ones that were obviously cut for A=440 - I have measured five of these horns besides my own, so two that were in tune with the main out an inch or so and four that needed the main out about four inches or more. Adding length to my main slide allows me to play this tuba in tune with my slide out about one inch. Prior to this leadpipe mod I had the main slide out so far that it would be pushed in by the top of my right leg as I played. So this is *much* better.

4. Overall tone...

These tubas are über bland in tone. Everyone *loves* them except for tuba players. I played an Alex 163 and wanted a tone more like that from my Yamaha. I used many mouthpieces over the years until I stumbled across the Laskey 30F, which helps me to generate more of the overtones that seem to add roundness and color to the sound. So now the tone is not so frustrating and the occasional characteristic-yet-unexpected "bark" these horns sometimes emit has gone away completely.

This mouthpiece and these three mods have turned this into a longterm keeper for me. I have owned it for over 12 years now and have no intention of selling it unless I come across an awfully good F tuba and have the money for it on hand.

So no. I will not sell it. It is MINE! MUWAHAHAHAAAAA!!! :tuba:


I adore my 621, I think it sounds fantastic! Quite big for such a little tuba.

I too thought it was uncomfortable at first, so I went out and bought a tupperware box and covered it in shelf liner. It fixed the height problem, while tipping the horn a bit to the left while on the box made it much more comfortable on my hand. All in all, it cost me about 10 bucks :roll: