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Totally agreed, mine arrived about 6 weeks ago and it's amazing. Best thing for my playing in a long time.

is this stand for use while playing?

is there a picture you could upload?

Will This do?

Yep, it is the best out there.

Finally, after Rick and I extolling the BBC stand's virtues for years, people are finally getting the message!

bill wrote:Will This do?

TubaRest.jpg

yip

is it adjustable below chair - level too ?
some tuba's (besson 994 BBb) have mouthpipes that are really too high, if the tuba is set higher or equal to chair-level.

thx

oedipoes wrote:is it adjustable below chair - level too ?
some tuba's (besson 994 BBb) have mouthpipes that are really too high, if the tuba is set higher or equal to chair-level.

To a certain extent. I can lower mine to below chair height, and for my Holton it is extended from its lowest position 1-1/2 or 2" depending on the chair. Here it is at minimum height (with the older K&M top), compared to a K&M stand at minimum height. It's about an inch lower.



When I was in England last November, I noticed two things:

1. The English are not any larger (or smaller) than their American cousins, and

2. Everything in their daily lives is miniaturized, from toilets (of the two things men might need to do while sitting, English toilets only accommodate one at a time) to cars (the cramped car we rented was seven sizes larger than the smallest on offer by the car-hire firm) to hotel rooms (my 23' motorhome is roomier) to prehistoric monoliths (that is Stonehenge?).

All that makes me wonder why they designed the 994 for someone 7 feet tall but with a 28-inch inseam on their trousers.

Rick "noting that none of the stands go low enough for some people" Denney

oedipoes wrote:

bill wrote:Will This do?

TubaRest.jpg

yip

is it adjustable below chair - level too ?
some tuba's (besson 994 BBb) have mouthpipes that are really too high, if the tuba is set higher or equal to chair-level.

thx

I have a high leadpipe on my 186 and normally use the stand in the lowest position to allow for that. It will go just below the seat of a typical folding chair used in most places. I also use a 16.5" [the bell diameter]x 2" thick foam rubber cushion that I sit on: comfort is a nice by-product, too! It also serves as bell protection inside the gigbag. Never have I sat on a chair that was too low to manage the leadpipe.
Note in the photo on Rick's last post the spread of the legs juxtaposing the K&M and BBC; the BBC is quite low and compact, reducing the chance of getting your legs tangled with the legs of the stand. All around a better product--that's why I sold my K&M when I bought my BBC.

Rick Denney wrote:
2. ... to cars (the cramped car we rented was seven sizes larger than the smallest on offer by the car-hire firm) ...

That's called fuel economy. It's pretty revolutionary in the States, but it's common for some while now in Europe (now some Englishman is going to hit me and say he's not a European... )

Thanks for the picture, I had a K&M but I had to cut down the pipe to fit to a besson BBb

wim

oedipoes wrote:That's called fuel economy. It's pretty revolutionary in the States, but it's common for some while now in Europe (now some Englishman is going to hit me and say he's not a European...

It's also called "we drove halfway across England for a day outing, and spent most of the data outing, not driving, so give me a Jaguar, dammit, because nothing in England is so far as to require much gasoline anyway". Or, perhaps, "any car bigger than a matchbox will get squashed flat by those damn double-decker buses, whose drivers are recruited from the suicide watch section of some dank eastern prison."

Rick "who drives 54 miles, round trip, to work every day and who knows about fuel economy" Denney

My Dear Sir,


54 miles= a lot?


IMHO, the BBC is too heavy, and the curvature of the support may not fit all. There is no "best fit". I admire Mr. Denney's typing ability.

Yours

Rick Oakes (one of Joe's earlier AMTRAK customers, in Western Colorado).

And, of course, since most posters are in the Eastern U.S. ( or Central time zone) , you will see nothing until Friday, April 3, 2009.


--Rick Oakes

The BBC stand is extremely lightweight, considering the bulk and strength. I don't see any reason it won't "fit" any tuba.

Rick Oakes wrote:IMHO, the BBC is too heavy

I remember Alan Baer, at the Denver ITEC, saying his playing stand for use on stage with New York weighed 35 pounds. He thought the heavier, the better.

Do I want to carry a 35-pound stand? No. But, the BBC stand is not too heavy.

Rick Oakes wrote:IMHO, the BBC is too heavy, and the curvature of the support may not fit all.

The BBC stand is heavy, though moreso with the old K&M top than with the new plastic top. But it's no heavier than the K&M, and it's enough more compact that that it is much easier to carry around. The DEG is lighter, but the lightness of it is the reason it has such a poor reputation for durability, especially with heavy tubas.

There would be ways to design a stand that is lighter, but it would have to be made from plate rather than sticks, to take advantage of skin strength. The legs on the BBC stand are heavy, but I can stand on them without bending them. And they are standard sections, so they are easy to construct at a low price point.

Rick "whose stand fits his Holton well enough" Denney

I got my BB tuba rest about a year ago, just after they got the new ones. I use it to support my 5/4 Rudy, and I am quite happy about it. I don't think it is too heavy, at all. Not only is it relatively light, it is quite compact, as well. I believe it is superior to the other stands I am aware of.