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Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:41 pm
by Tubaing
bell tone holes.
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:27 pm
by TUBAD83
CONVERTIBLE TUBAS
Yes I know they are still around, but thankfully they are disappearing from the scene!!
They all should be thrown in a huge bottomless PIT (like the one in the movie "300") and NEVER BE SEEN OR SPOKEN OF AGAIN ...EVER!
JJ
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:04 am
by tubashaman2
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Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 1:43 am
by tubashaman2
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Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 3:44 am
by ztuba
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutely SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 5:34 am
by imperialbari
Tubaing wrote:bell tone holes.
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 5:39 am
by tubatroll1821lsu
tubashaman2 wrote:PT50+ mouthpieces and other large ones......dying out...
I actually just placed first in a mock audition on a PT-50+ in my studio..... just saying.....
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 7:46 am
by Kevin Hendrick
Yup -- that one would be laughable if it weren't so sad.
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:53 am
by mceuph
Someone please clear up the Kelly mouthpiece thing. I have never played a Kelly tuba piece, but have tried one of their 5G bone pieces, and it was HORRIBLE. No core to the sound, loss of definition in the high range...basically everything one would expect from a plastic piece. In fact, I've got a student coming in as a freshman music major next year who plays on one, and I've already insisted he get a metal mouthpiece. However, I see a few posts here inferring that these are good pieces on tuba. I personally can't see how these would be better than a metal piece in any situation except extreme weather conditions. Please let me know what I'm missing here.
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 9:23 am
by TUBAD83
mceuph wrote:Someone please clear up the Kelly mouthpiece thing. I have never played a Kelly tuba piece, but have tried one of their 5G bone pieces, and it was HORRIBLE. No core to the sound, loss of definition in the high range...basically everything one would expect from a plastic piece. In fact, I've got a student coming in as a freshman music major next year who plays on one, and I've already insisted he get a metal mouthpiece. However, I see a few posts here inferring that these are good pieces on tuba. I personally can't see how these would be better than a metal piece in any situation except extreme weather conditions. Please let me know what I'm missing here.
I too would be most interested in this Kelly mouthpiece business. I know of no tubist who uses one for concert work. The last time I used a plastic mouthpiece was when I was stationed in Alaska and it was 2 degrees outside (we used "bugle call" marches and it was just brass & percussion--ww players stayed inside)
JJ
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 9:27 am
by The Jackson
For a period of, maybe, a month-or-so, I used a Kellyberg as my
exclusive piece because my teacher told me that that was the one I sounded best one. One day, the brass coach in my orchestra, an exceptional bass trombone player that I respect, noticed that I was using the Kelly and that I was sounding good. He and a local college student then had a little dialogue about how the trombone mouthpieces sucked and how the trumpet mouthpieces sucked. Maybe a bad mouthpiece combined with a bad player makes good sound!
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:24 am
by imperialbari
bloke wrote:LJV wrote:tuben wrote:Orfeo "Deck" model mouthpieces
"
Why" would be as interesting to hear from people as much as "
what" sucked.
So, why did these
suck to
you?
Well, I'm one of those guys that:
1 - Likes heavyweight mouthpieces
2 - LOVES huge mouthpieces (Bayamo is my normal piece, was old-style PT-10 in college)
But when I tried the Deck stuff in college, it just made everything sound dead. Flat, lifeless and dead.
RC
I think I'll have to second this. Years ago (around the time the Deck mouthpieces were first introduced) when I was selling some of the stuff that Orpheus was importing, I was offered one-or-any of these mouthpieces for (back then) a very attractive price. I tried them out (in their warehouse) for a while on several models of tubas...and declined.
No matter how true RC and bloke are in referring their experiences with this given mouthpiece, it actually may have worked for somebody.
I have my own ideas on mouthpieces and I strongly influenced the choices of my students. But I have heard people play very well on mouthpieces, which one would not expect allowing such playing. And some people may choose whatever mouthpiece and none will help them.
Klaus
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:35 pm
by windshieldbug
The idea that ONE horn/mouthpiece will work for everyone... or everything
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 1:53 pm
by Alex C
the elephant wrote:Heavy valve caps…
Hey, I've got to disagree. The change on my Alexander was an improvement immediately noticed by every professional musician I asked, even the skeptics.
the elephant wrote:Silver plate is bad, raw brass is good, lacquer is evil…
Lacquer is easy, silver is preferred, raw brass makes your hand smell like... well, not good.
the elephant wrote:Rotor "scooping"…
Aw, c'mon, you did it.
the elephant wrote:Leather belts, caulking, or lead tape wrapped around the bell near the flare…
Yes, this definitely sucks.
the elephant wrote:Skeletonized mouthpieces…
hmmmm...
the elephant wrote:Added mass mouthpieces…
Wait... too thin, too heavy, what the heck! You only like middle weight mouthpieces?
the elephant wrote:Rubber O-Rings on EVERY slide, even on ones you never move, when they are supposed to silence them when they are moved all the way in with a lot of force…
This is kind of like adding racing stripes to your tuba. It makes a statement. No suck here.
the elephant wrote:Acousticoils…
One of the single most stupidist ideas ever. Suck.
the elephant wrote:Pocket Rocket….
OK, suck.
Sorry, don't want to seem like I'm raggin' on you Eleph, you know I'm over the wall.
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 6:00 pm
by pgym
Any post by tubashaman2.
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 6:22 pm
by pierso20
pgym wrote:Any post by tubashaman2.
and no punches pulled.....
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 6:40 pm
by THE TUBA
pgym wrote:Any post by tubashaman2.
Ah-hahahaha!
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 6:51 pm
by Mojo workin'
But when I tried the Deck stuff in college, it just made everything sound dead. Flat, lifeless and dead.
They didn't for Warren.
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:17 pm
by Gator
Getting back to the topic:
Cutting York Monster BBb's into C tubas.
Re: Tuba Fads that Acutally SUCK
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 1:27 am
by Biggs
pgym wrote:Any post by tubashaman2.
You're a braver man than I, Gunga Din!
