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As I'm Hungarian, I have several english words yet which I do not really understand... I would greatly appreciate if you could please explain wha does the following sentence mean:

"Play these octaves as harmonic slurs on one fingering (until this I understand ) - or just rip them while wiggling your valves "

And the other:

"Rip the valves on the slurs in every exercise"


Thanks for your kind help. If you would need hungarian translation, just let me know !!

ubq wrote:As I'm Hungarian, I have several english words yet which I do not really understand... I would greatly appreciate if you could please explain wha does the following sentence mean:

"Play these octaves as harmonic slurs on one fingering (until this I understand ) - or just rip them while wiggling your valves "

I think wiggling the valves means pressing the valves in fast sequences of random patterns. When combined with a rip there often will sound something like an upwards scale.

Around 1970 one of the entertainment pieces common on brass band concerts was about a lighthouse with the baritones and euphs illustrating the foghorns by playing long notes in odd intervals. The cornets had very fast chromatic scales. At a clinic with a well-known British conductor, who preferred British instruments over Japanese, the cornets had problems with the speed of these scales. The instruction was:

You may use Chinese fingerings. Yes, you may even use Yamaha fingerings!

Klaus

This is called "faking it".
Slurring up or down while rapidly pressing any valve combination, may make an audience think you have taken the time to properly play a passage this fast.
However there is no guarantee a fake will fool anybody.

This seems a technique which works best on piston valve instruments, but not so effective with rotaries.

In my experience, it is a common practice in British Brass bands

No I dont want to fool anybody
This are just octave glissando exercises, for developing the top notes!

Thank you so much for the help!

wrote:In my experience, it is a common practice in British Brass bands

Not in the best ones.

Alex C wrote:

wrote:In my experience, it is a common practice in British Brass bands

Not in the best ones.

Yes they do! A few years back I was at a brass band masterclass with players from a top championship brass band. I cannot remember which test piece we were working on, but there was a tricky semi-quaver (16th note) passage with lots of accidentals in the bass part. I got back early from one break to practice this passage. When the bass tutor came back he heard me working on this and said "don't bother working all that out - it is only an effect - just wiggle your fingers - we do!"