Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:12 pm
man.... i really need to try one of these horns... everyone says they're awesome
everyone says they're awesome
Not everyone ... ('specially those who own a tuner)
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:24 pm
Not everyone ... ('specially those who own a tuner)
It's not your daddy's horn
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:32 am
The one thing that I have noticed with people who have played other instruments for a long period of time is that they are automatically "adjusting" things as they play. One top professional player came through a while back and tried one of the 1291s and his comment was that the low G was flat, with the slide all the way in. I mentioned that I believed that this was a sharp note on his current instrument and that he may be playing it low since that is what he was used to. When he played it again it was perfectly in tune.
This horn is so "user friendly" that you need to let the horn do the work and sort of stay out of its way. To many of those who have purchased these I have said: "playing a cheap horn is like driving a bulldozer; playing a good horn is like driving a cadillac; playing a 1291 is like being a passenger in the cadillac".
Just my observations - have a great one.
This horn is so "user friendly" that you need to let the horn do the work and sort of stay out of its way. To many of those who have purchased these I have said: "playing a cheap horn is like driving a bulldozer; playing a good horn is like driving a cadillac; playing a 1291 is like being a passenger in the cadillac".
Just my observations - have a great one.
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 am
All you guys' comments are nice. I'm glad you have opinions.
I also have my own, the 1291 CC is not as in tune as a Mirafone 184, 185, 186, 188, Conn 5xJ, or PT-6. If that annoys you, then I'm sorry.
No offense was intended to those of you who like this tuba.
Christian
I also have my own, the 1291 CC is not as in tune as a Mirafone 184, 185, 186, 188, Conn 5xJ, or PT-6. If that annoys you, then I'm sorry.
No offense was intended to those of you who like this tuba.
Christian
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:32 am
I tried a 1291 two weeks ago here is LA and I do not think it is anything special. Now I drive a Rolls Royce, a much smoother, and bigger ride than the Cadillac. Still no horn I have ever tried has compared to my particular Yorkbrunner.
The 1291 certainly has a nice look to it, but the feel wasn't great when holding it. It is a stealth little thing, I'll give it that much. Kind of like the Yamaha F tubas, where you just feel like you could play anything, FAST! But also like the Yamaha F tubas the 1291 has a everyday tuba tone. I couldn't get the depth of vibrato I get on my Yorkbrunner or my Rudy F, and the horn lacked the mellowness that I so enjoy in a good tuba.
For the price I think the horn is great. Stack 'em deep, build 'em cheap. I think the Cadillac comparison was right on. I would take any Mirafone rotary CC's over this horn. It's impossible to be comfortable in a Cadillac when you've been putting around in a Rolls for so long. Nothing's quite like a sophisticated lady.
The 1291 certainly has a nice look to it, but the feel wasn't great when holding it. It is a stealth little thing, I'll give it that much. Kind of like the Yamaha F tubas, where you just feel like you could play anything, FAST! But also like the Yamaha F tubas the 1291 has a everyday tuba tone. I couldn't get the depth of vibrato I get on my Yorkbrunner or my Rudy F, and the horn lacked the mellowness that I so enjoy in a good tuba.
For the price I think the horn is great. Stack 'em deep, build 'em cheap. I think the Cadillac comparison was right on. I would take any Mirafone rotary CC's over this horn. It's impossible to be comfortable in a Cadillac when you've been putting around in a Rolls for so long. Nothing's quite like a sophisticated lady.
Re: It's not your daddy's horn
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:57 pm
This goes for slide settings too....I can play perfectly in tune with my 1st horn unless we trade instruments, at which point we run into a "difference in slide setting philosophy." Neither one of us can play decently in tune on the other one's horn, unless we re-set the slides.Roger Lewis wrote:The one thing that I have noticed with people who have played other instruments for a long period of time is that they are automatically "adjusting" things as they play.
This is useful info when play testing horns at a conference....somebody else may have tuned the tuba to their playing preferences/habits, and that tuning won't work for you at all.
MA