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Does anyone know of a place that I might be able to buy a Standard to Euro Shank Adapter? Or would it be easier for me to just make one? Thank you.

I believe you mean euro-shank to standard. The standard is the bigger of the two

I have an Standard American Shank currently on my mouthpiece and my tuba reciever is a european shank. I need something to make it fit correctly.

you need a new mouthpiece receiver on your leadpipe

TUBUD wrote:you need a new mouthpiece receiver on your leadpipe

You can do that or get a sousaphone bit and have it cut down to where it will fit inside the receiver.

And by the way, Euro shank is larger than standard (American).

JJ

Better check again "JJ"

TUBUD wrote:Better check again "JJ"

Matt Walters wrote:In the world of tuba mouthpieces, it seems there are five general shank sizes and that, can lead to confusion. The Standard American and European Shank sizes, followed by the Large Shank, are the most common sizes that fit modern production tubas. From smallest to largest, we offer the following information to shed a little light on the subject.

EUROPEAN SHANK: This is an increasingly popular shank size of about .530" diameter at the small end of the shank. It is found in mouthpieces like the JK Exclusive, Perantucci, Laskey "E" shank, and of course our wonderful Sheridan Series of mouthpieces. Most every European and American tuba built these days, will accept this shank size.

STANDARD AMERICAN: The reference point for this size of about .520" at the small end of the shank. A good example would be the Bach, and Conn Helleberg tuba mouthpieces. This is the most common size here in the United States. In the Dennis Wick line, you need to make sure it has the "L" in the model number to get this standard size. Our regular size shank Dillon Mouthpieces are also of this size. Besides American built horns, many European horns like Miraphone can use this size.

JJ

At the music store where I work we have two of the big Besson Bb compensating tubas tha were traded in from a school . The Bach and Conn mouthpieces we have in stock were too large and we ordered what Schilke refered to as a euro-shank that was smaller and fit the English made Bessons perfect.

What I've been doing lately on my Cerveny Kaiser (euro shank) is wrapping my mouthpieces in blue tape. Generally a 2-3" piece will do the trick, and won't leave any marks. You will have to replace it every 3 or 4 times you play, but it works...
I am also interested in hearing permanent solutions to this problem

The Besson shank with which I am familiar has always been smaller than the American shank. Schilke probably supplied mouthpieces with a Besson shank to fit that horn. The true Euro shank is indeed larger than the Standard, such that an American mouthpiece will not fit right (or play right) without an adaptor. Dillon Music sells these.

josh wagner wrote:I have an Standard American Shank currently on my mouthpiece and my tuba reciever is a european shank. I need something to make it fit correctly.

The problem is with your terminology, if your signature tells the story:

PT-6
PT-50s

The PT-50s is the version of the PT-50 which is made for the old British receivers sized like bassbone receivers.

The solution hardly is an adapter, as there will be a big gap between the end of the stem and the end of the leadpipe.

The real answer to the situation is a mouthpiece with a stem fitting the receiver.

My reservations towards the adapter solution partially come from the inevitable turbulences at the end of the stem, but also come because the narrow backbore will not exploit the full potentials of the tuba.

Klaus

imperialbari wrote:

josh wagner wrote:I have an Standard American Shank currently on my mouthpiece and my tuba reciever is a european shank. I need something to make it fit correctly.

The problem is with your terminology, if your signature tells the story:

PT-6
PT-50s

The PT-50s is the version of the PT-50 which is made for the old British receivers sized like bassbone receivers.
...

The PT-50s is American shank. What the original poster needs is an American to Euro shank adapter. Matt Walters at Dillon Music can sell you one. I have purchased one from Dillon's.

PT "normal" is European.
PT "S" is American
Either XS or AM is the old Besson EEb size.

cjk wrote:

imperialbari wrote:

josh wagner wrote:I have an Standard American Shank currently on my mouthpiece and my tuba reciever is a european shank. I need something to make it fit correctly.

The problem is with your terminology, if your signature tells the story:

PT-6
PT-50s

The PT-50s is the version of the PT-50 which is made for the old British receivers sized like bassbone receivers.
...

The PT-50s is American shank. What the original poster needs is an American to Euro shank adapter. Matt Walters at Dillon Music can sell you one. I have purchased one from Dillon's.

PT "normal" is European.
PT "S" is American
Either XS or AM is the old Besson EEb size.

Your information is inconsistent with my communication with Bob Tucci’s store a year ago, but if you can provide documentation, I am willing to accept your statement.

Klaus

Tubud: you're confusing Euro shank with Small Euro shank. What is commonly referred to as Euro is larger than American. Small Euro is for smaller receivers like the old Besson Eb's.

Small Euro is what the Wick mouthpieces without "L" on the end are. I bought one last year to go with my small-receiver antique Eb's. It's slightly larger than a typical bass bone shank.

imperialbari wrote:The problem is with your terminology, if your signature tells the story:

PT-6
PT-50s

The PT-50s is the version of the PT-50 which is made for the old British receivers sized like bassbone receivers.

cjk wrote:The PT-50s is American shank. What the original poster needs is an American to Euro shank adapter. Matt Walters at Dillon Music can sell you one. I have purchased one from Dillon's.

PT "normal" is European.
PT "S" is American
Either XS or AM is the old Besson EEb size.

imperialbari wrote:Your information is inconsistent with my communication with Bob Tucci’s store a year ago, but if you can provide documentation, I am willing to accept your statement.

I've measured both PT "normal" (Euro) and PT "S" shanks with my calipers. The normal ones are around .530" in diameter. The S ones are around .520" in diameter.


Here is another reference:
http://www.music123.com/Perantucci-Tuba ... 6.Music123" target="_blank

music123.com wrote:Perantucci tuba mouthpieces are available with both "European" (large) and "American" (smaller) shank sizes. The latter include "S" after the model number.

Here's another reference, I think the listed measurements are from the inside of receivers. But you'll notice that they go from largest to smallest, the largest being Euro, the next size down is American. I think "XS" is probably the old Besson Eb size, but it could be "AM". I don't have any "XS" or "AM" stuff.

http://www.custommusiccorp.com/Accessor ... bampc.html" target="_blank

custommusiccorp.com wrote: Tuba Shank Designations
Perantucci tuba mouthpieces are available with the following shanks:
No Indication: (15.2 mm)
Standard shank, for contemporary CC and BBb tubas with large receivers.
"S" on shank: (14.8 mm)
One size smaller, for CC and BBb tubas with small receivers and most Eb and F tubas.
"XS" on shank: (14.5 mm)
For Eb or F tubas with particularly small receivers.
"AM" on shank: (14.2 mm)
For instruments with extremely small receivers.

AM could be for those tubas with a small-medium trombone receiver (have seen at least one like that!).

My signature is outdated i do apologize, I currently have a G&W Bayamo, and play on a PT-6 the shank for the G&W is the standard shank.

josh wagner wrote:My signature is outdated i do apologize, I currently have a G&W Bayamo, and play on a PT-6 the shank for the G&W is the standard shank.

Your G&W "standard" shank is American. You can either buy a larger "Euro" shank G&W Bayamo mouthpiece or buy an adapter from Dillon Music. You will need to call Matt Walters because I don't think you can order them from Dillon's web page.

I would purchase the "Euro" shank mouthpiece. I've gotten my adapter stuck on a mouthpiece and also stuck in the receiver of a tuba.

I don’t follow the dimensions cited. Are they for the tip of the shank, or for the opening of the receiver? I think dimensions are normally indicating the tip of the shank.

Klaus

Is dillons the best place to buy equiptment?? ...new guy...bob