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Birth of a baby C!

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:04 am
by Wyvern
Quite a few tubas have passed through my hands over the years with mixed affection. However, one which I previously sold and have increasingly missed is the PT-20 4/4 CC I used to own. I sold it trimming back my tuba collection in 2008 and very soon regretted as it was such a useful adaptable tuba. Just right for when something heaver than a bass tuba is wanted, but lighter than the Neptune. I hoped the PT-3 would fill the slot, but that to my ears has a tone more akin to a bass tuba.

So after much doing my sums and soul searching I decided to order a new PT-20, but with added carrying hooks and lyre block, so it might possibly replace the PT-3 for marching use. I got Mark Carter at Mr.Tuba to place special order for me back in June. I was expecting hooks to just be added to a standard PT-20, so was surprised, but pleased to hear that as it was non-standard, B&S had decided to specially hand make it (although I am only paying for modified standard production model).

I then thought, if it is being handmade, maybe B&S would customise it further to specifically suit my requirements. As I use a Tubassist, one thing I like is for leadpipes to all be at the same height for easy switching of tubas in a concert. The PT-20 pipe I previously found lower than my Neptune. I therefore asked for it to be raised one inch higher and made detachable for easy cleaning (a feature I like on the Neptune).

I never know why they fit main water keys on the side of the tubing slide so tipping is needed to empty(???) - I much prefer on the bottom to enable emptying in the playing position, so moving the water key became another requested customisation.

I have a liking for gold brass, and although I could not afford to order the PT-20 all gold brass (50% more expensive), I thought a gold brass bell would make it look special too, so was added purely as an indulgence.

As the tuba is being handmade specifically for me, I also got the opportunity to visit the factory to try and approve before final finishing. After four months waiting, that time has just arrived and I went over to Markneukirchen last week.

I was surprised on arrival at how large and modern is the B&S factory – much bigger than Melton/Meinl-Weston – 190 workers, against under 30 at M-W. I was shown in a store room and my new baby was brought out - it is a really beautiful job!!!

When I tried, it plays as well as it looks with lovely full tone across four octaves. After some slide pulling, intonation was excellent as I had found with my previous PT-20. I could not make a side by side playing comparison with the standard model, but I detect it slightly more resonate and with richer tone which I associate with gold brass.

I was given a full factory tour, although unfortunately could not take any photos due to company policy to protect their production methods (!!!). It was very impressive with a mixture of skilled handwork and quite impressive automation, such as the robot engraving tool. As well as B&S tubas, they also now make Besson here and do a lot of work for Meinl-Weston, producing components and doing all the silver plating and lacquering. The lacquer room is protected by four doors to enter to avoid any dust getting inside.

While in Markneukirchen I also visited the excellent music museum and Schmidt mouthpieces (getting one for my F tuba).

I can’t wait to now see my new PT-20 all finished and lacquered! :D

Re: Birth of a baby C!

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:12 am
by oedipoes
spectacular !
My wallet tries to run away, as I seem to like the looks of a goldbrass bell more and more...

nice instrument Jonathan !
cannot wait to see your report trying the neptune.

Wim

Re: Birth of a baby C!

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:48 am
by Wyvern
oedipoes wrote:cannot wait to see your report trying the neptune.
As long as weather conditions are not bad (i.e. snow), I plan to take over my 'old' Neptune to make a side by side comparison.

I learnt during my visit last week how rare are Neptune's - B&S only produce about four per year, so they too are quite excited about manufacturing my unique gold brass one.

Re: Birth of a baby C!

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:24 pm
by TubaTodd
Neptune wrote:
oedipoes wrote:cannot wait to see your report trying the neptune.
As long as weather conditions are not bad (i.e. snow), I plan to take over my 'old' Neptune to make a side by side comparison.

I learnt during my visit last week how rare are Neptune's - B&S only produce about four per year, so they too are quite excited about manufacturing my unique gold brass one.
Wow...only 4 per year? Is that based on time needed for completion or demand? What will be the final finishing?

Re: Birth of a baby C!

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:21 pm
by imperialbari
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That loop on the back, is that the 3rd valve tubing?

Maybe a special baby to you, and certainly smaller than the Neptune, but doesn’t exactly look like a small sissyphone to me.

Klaus

Re: Birth of a baby C!

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:44 pm
by Wyvern
Klaus, That is the 3rd valve loop on the back. Size wise, the PT-20 is just a fraction larger than a Besson 981 Eb. I think it makes a very good C alternative to such, with obviously the benefit of a stronger low register.

'TubaTodd', the new Neptune will be finished with clear lacquer - I would not want to obscure the beauty of gold brass! :) I guess the quantity of 4 per year is based on orders? It does seem very few - projecting from that, I wonder if there is less than 100 Neptune in the world?

Re: Birth of a baby C!

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:41 pm
by Casey Tucker
Congrats! I LOVE my PT20 and had at one time thought about selling it but i just can't bring myself to it.

-CT

Re: Birth of a baby C!

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:58 pm
by Tubadork
AWESOME!! Your orchestra must pay the big bucks man!
Bill

Re: Birth of a baby C!

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:59 pm
by Mister JP
Now THAT'S the way to buy a new tuba! Enjoy that horn!