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Yes.

I believe horns vary a lot, even if they are the same model.

einahpets wrote:

UTSAtuba wrote:Yes.

I believe horns vary a lot, even if they are the same model.

So would you invest one or not?

Maybe. Depends on how it plays. I would rather try the horn before I buy. I realize your circumstances, though. TubaTinker (Dan Schulz) has an amazing amount of collection on these horns. From what I've read, they seem like a pretty good deal. I *think* others have said that the rotary version has better intonation than the piston.

Joseph

UTSAtuba wrote:

einahpets wrote:

UTSAtuba wrote:Yes.

I believe horns vary a lot, even if they are the same model.

So would you invest one or not?

I *think* others have said that the rotary version has better intonation than the piston.

Joseph

Since the main tuning slide is accessible with the left hand while playing, does that mean that intonation is only an issue if you aren't using it?

Not that it matters, but I have a slant-valve rotary Marzan CC that I learned to play using the single slide instead of the valve slides.

NO HORN HAS PERFECT INTONATION because the overtone series itself has flaws, piano equal-temperament only means that each note is equally out of tune (except for "stretch base", which is a little more), section playing means "shading" notes one way or another for clarity, and the pitch of A varies from place to place, temperature to temperature, and person to person.

For myself, having only one slide to deal with all of this is a great advantage.

windshieldbug wrote:Not that it matters, but I have a slant-valve rotary Marzan CC that I learned to play using the single slide instead of the valve slides.

NO HORN HAS PERFECT INTONATION because the overtone series itself has flaws, piano equal-temperament only means that each note is equally out of tune (except for "stretch base", which is a little more), section playing means "shading" notes one way or another for clarity, and the pitch of A varies from place to place, temperature to temperature, and person to person.

For myself, having only one slide to deal with all of this is a great advantage.

Agreed!

einahpets wrote:

UTSAtuba wrote:Yes.

I believe horns vary a lot, even if they are the same model.

So would you invest one or not?

yes

einahpets wrote:O ok thank you. Yeah I have a chance to but a piston one

I don't recall seeing any piston Marzans in CC. Can you post an image? What is the bell size?

TubaTinker wrote:

einahpets wrote:O ok thank you. Yeah I have a chance to but a piston one

I don't recall seeing any piston Marzans in CC. Can you post an image? What is the bell size?

Wasn't there one recently on eBay? Or was that a cut CC?

The few I've tried were excellent tubas (including the one I own).

I'm sure there are some clunkers, but there are good ones too. Seems like they can typically they can be had at a very reasonable price, too (the good ones)!

I bought mine (4 valve CC) used 14 years ago. Bought it for$2,000 with $400 worth of music thrown in. What fun I had in college with it! There are some very odd intonation issues on Bb (second line) and A (first space). Other than that... false tones are good enough not to need a 5th valve.

Chris Roush