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me and the highschool director found a old old bach 30e mouthpiece at the jr high.. and since I play on a helleberg the small size intrigued me and him both.

I am wondering what is it usually meant for? I read somewhere its more of a beginner mouthpiece?

I brought it home and first playing on it, it almost feels like baritone to me. As I thought higher is defiantly easier to pop out then lower on this mouthpiece, but I find it interesting in general. The f seems to be the easiest note to pop out, and the low Bb feels just different. I'm not asking about switching to this mouthpiece but just trying to see if it be worth keeping close by for certain things, or if its merely a mouthpiece to get a student started. Either way its fun to play around on.

Here's what Bach says about it:

30E - Medium shallow depth, 30.00mm diameter, Medium wide rim, A small mouthpiece requiring little volume of air. For the young student with a small mouth.

I recommend it for Eb and F tubas and for trombonists who want to double occasionally on tuba. I also sometime lend one to a student who can't get high notes, as a temporary crutch.

Jacob Morgan wrote:I'm not asking about switching to this mouthpiece but just trying to see if it be worth keeping close by for certain things, or if its merely a mouthpiece to get a student started. Either way its fun to play around on.

It's worth keeping as a special-purpose 'piece, certainly. I bought a new one a couple of months ago to see if it might brighten the tone (shallower cup = more upper harmonics) and make the upper range easier ... it did both. It's a bit of a switch from the Bach 7 that I use for most of my playing (3.5 mm smaller I.D.), but I like it. I use it on pieces that lie mostly in and above the staff (German band stuff, mainly (so far) -- things that *should* be played on an Eb or an F, not a CC). Pedal range is surprisingly decent (but no match for the 7). Might be a good choice for the VW ... worth a try.

(and it *is* fun, isn't it? )