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G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:42 pm
by Bob Kolada
It seems that about every year or so, someone on here mentions making a concert tuba out of a G contrabass bugle. Has anyone ever? :D
A 3 valve horn would play down to Db, and a 4 valver would give a solid A and possibly avoid ever playing a pedal note.

Pictures, anybody? :tuba:

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:45 pm
by bort
And the upper range would be... :?:

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:49 pm
by djwesp
Bob Kolada wrote:It seems that about every year or so, someone on here mentions making a concert tuba out of a G contrabass bugle. Has anyone ever? :D
A 3 valve horn would play down to Db, and a 4 valver would give a solid A and possibly avoid ever playing a pedal note.

Pictures, anybody? :tuba:

I have played a very poorly done botch job of a G Contrabass tuba. It was a 4 valve Kanstul (with a fifth valve on the left hand) We played it in Rockford, Ill in 2002. Some traveling horn repair crew had it.

At the time I was playing G Contra in a corps. It altered my perspective quite a bit, I had not touched a CC tuba in 2 months.

All I can remember thinking was that it wasn't very practical. Played some of the orchestral stuff on it and thought... eh... this isn't my CC. The tuning on G Contras is gastly. Horrid. Horrible. Disgusting. Wretched. AWFUL. High range tuning is even worse.

I think part of what makes the low rep fun is where it sits in the horn. On GG you are playing that stuff in the ooompah range, not the snedecor range... it just takes away some of the appeal for me.

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:06 pm
by Bob Kolada
bort wrote:And the upper range would be... :?:
Well, just like one wouldn't (shouldn't) play a C/Bb on everything a G wouldn't be used on everything either. So, like the Montagues and Capulets but not Berlioz. Maybe a G euphonium for that.... :D

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:09 pm
by cjk
Bob Kolada wrote:It seems that about every year or so, someone on here mentions making a concert tuba out of a G contrabass bugle.
Isn't that someone always you? :D

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:34 pm
by imperialbari
djwesp wrote:The tuning on G Contras is gastly. Horrid. Horrible. Disgusting. Wretched. AWFUL.
Sound like what community bands are about.

K

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:34 pm
by Bob Kolada
cjk wrote:
Bob Kolada wrote:It seems that about every year or so, someone on here mentions making a concert tuba out of a G contrabass bugle.
Isn't that someone always you? :D
I think it's actually Wade! :D



Bob"would play such a horn!"Kolada

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:47 pm
by imperialbari
Bob Kolada wrote:
cjk wrote:
Bob Kolada wrote:It seems that about every year or so, someone on here mentions making a concert tuba out of a G contrabass bugle.
Isn't that someone always you? :D
I think it's actually Wade! :D



Bob"would play such a horn!"Kolada
I am not sure you are right. Anyway you don’t have to follow his imaginary Wade Mecum.

K

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:49 pm
by Bob Kolada
I don't know how to take that- Latin, fishing,...? :D

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:08 pm
by imperialbari
Fishing for Latin?

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:09 pm
by DavidK
Bob,

All you need is two things.
A Yamaha 201 3 valve top action tuba.
And...
A Yamaha Y201M Conversion kit.
It was actually a concert tuba converted to become a 3 valve GG Contra bugle.

Keep the concert leadpipe on the tuba. Add the tube extension kit and you have a 3 valve GG concert tuba.

Are you still playing bass bone or is it Eb tuba?

Anyway, I happen to have 6 of those kits if you (or anyone else) are interested.

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:34 am
by MartyNeilan
One of my first serious tuba teachers told me, "Stick a mouthpiece in a horn and blow."

The older I get, the more right he was.

(I had a dream last night I was still playing my F tuba, working on the Mahler 1 solo and Hungarian March. I realized I could get by with those on the Schiller and a #1 blokepiece, and I should probably sell the F due to finances. When I woke up, I realized I had already sold it :( )

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:42 pm
by Kevin Hendrick
imperialbari wrote:... you don’t have to follow his imaginary Wade Mecum.
I do love a good pun (associating with oboists helps with this one):

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vade_mecum

http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/Vad ... ist/166022

:) :) :)

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:15 pm
by Roger Lewis
bort wrote:And the upper range would be... :?:
"like a bluejay fartin' in an empty silo"

Just my thoughts.

Roger

Re: G contrabass concert tubas?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:40 pm
by djwesp
Roger Lewis wrote:
bort wrote:And the upper range would be... :?:
"like a bluejay fartin' in an empty silo"


Roger

Pretty much.