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mouthpiece recommendations

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:21 pm
by ZachDomrese
I play a PT-606p CC tuba usually with a PT-88+
with this moutpiece my low range sounds good and most everyhting else is good
except my upper range above a G
i've never had that great of a high range anyway but it was a little better when i played on a LM-7
so the question is
what PT mouthpiece would be good to help out my high range?

I was thinking maybe a PT-62 or 64
any recommendations?

Re: mouthpiece recommendations

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:33 pm
by Bob Kolada
Does it have to be a PT mouthpiece?
Try a Bach 18; it may go a bit far in though there has to be other brand 18's out there in a Euro shank (Melton 18?).

Re: mouthpiece recommendations

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:44 pm
by tuba114
I know two guy who play on a PT-606p and they both use a PT-44

Re: mouthpiece recommendations

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:50 pm
by iiipopes
If it does "have" to be a PT mouthpiece, Jeff Rideout is still at Custom Music.

If it doesn't, there are many out there to choose from.

Re: mouthpiece recommendations

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:06 pm
by ZachDomrese
it doesn't have to be a PT but i have prefered them so far.

Re: mouthpiece recommendations

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:35 pm
by Bob Kolada
ZachDomrese wrote:it doesn't have to be a PT but i have prefered them so far.
ZachDomrese wrote:most everyhting else is good
except my upper range above a G
..and you have been rewarded with a lousy high range. Time to switch? :D

I should prematurely apologize.... I don't think you're old enough :cry: to merit such "biased" criticism. :D

Re: mouthpiece recommendations

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:38 pm
by imperialbari
Have you tried to analyze the reasons for your upper range problems?

For many years I used a PT-50 on BBb and Eb basses, because I loved the sound. Eventually the round PT rim became a problem for me, because exactness in high range pp playing was hard to produce.

You may have to give up the PT comfort to get what you want. You should try other types of mouthpieces also, but if you try out too many at the same session your head will spin, your lips will be sore, and you still will not be much wiser.

Kelly makes plastic mouthpieces, which are not expensive anyway, but currently they have an Irish inspired seasonal offering:

http://www.kellymouthpieces.com/hotdeal/index.asp


Be sure that green color is ugly! I bought a few samples myself. But for a reasonable price you may try out their samples of two major trends in mouthpieces: their funnel Kellyberg and their more bowl shaped #18.

Klaus

Re: mouthpiece recommendations

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:21 pm
by ZachDomrese
..and you have been rewarded with a lousy high range. Time to switch? :D

I should prematurely apologize.... I don't think you're old enough :cry: to merit such "biased" criticism. :D
lol well I take lessons with Millisa Willaims at Butler University (which I am planning on attending after HS) and she has been trying out many different mouthpieces herself. I have tried most of them and I got the best tone and "core" to my sound with a PT-88+. I used to use a LOUD LM7 which i liked alot and I could play a little higher but I didnt sound as good.

Also I have VERY large lips so I like how wide the 88's rim is

I have also tried and not liked a G&W, not sure which exactly, a HUGE Denis Wick, and a PT-36 which I thought was horrible

The PT-50+ i liked but not as much.

what are the opinions of simply having two different mouthpieces (one for most playing and one for high solos)?

Re: mouthpiece recommendations

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:52 pm
by Bob Kolada
ZachDomrese wrote:what are the opinions of simply having two different mouthpieces (one for most playing and one for high solos)?
I think you should try to get the range issue fixed first, but after that I think having 2 different mouthpieces is a fantastic idea. In fact I have 2 (or more; sigh...) for all my horns, but the the ones that work the best are-
-contrabass and sousa- PT48 for almost everything; if it had a slightly wider rim it would be perfect for me
-big Conn Eb- Bach 18 for most stuff, occasionally the 48
-small King Eb tuba- Bach 18 for "tuba stuff" and really loud really low parts; no-name 30mm shallow dealie for when I think I'm either Italian or a euph player
-euphonium- 3G-ish stuff
---no contrabone now, but am planning on a 30mm mp and a shallow F tuba mp for trombone choir and such (LOW low parts! seem to bottom out around 3 octaves below the bass staff!!); I'm told a PT60 has the same rim as a Bach 18 but is much shallower, I want to start there
-bass trombone and contrabass trumpet- 30mm shallow contra mp for most things, Yamaha 60B (shallow and not that big) for big band and such; when I actually get my 60B back I suspect it will be what I use on the big trumpet
-big tenor trombone- the 60B for bassy stuff, a Bach 3G (default) and 6.5AL for most tenor stuff
-small tenor trombone and bass trumpet- 6.5AL and 12C

The only reason I listed all of them (because I'm sure no one really cares :D) is to show that I also like an overlap between the horns. It seems to add a level of familiarity to switching and gives me more sound options.