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Hallo Everyone!
Here are some pics from the Frankfurt Musikmesse!
Sorry, some of the pics are blurry, but it should give an OK overview.
Enjoy!
2165
ps-I'm sorry i didnt see the G&P instruments. If anyone has a chance, could you please post pics for everyone?

Miraphone Bruckner 4/4 CC

Miraphone 188 4/4 CC

Miraphone 190 5/4 CC

Miraphone Baritones

Miraphone Petruchka F

Miraphone Firebird

Assorted Miraphone BBbs

Miraphone Petruchka F

Random Miraphone pic

Hagston Instruments

Hagston Baritone

Winter Cases

Voigt Brass-beautiful craftsmanship

Inderbin Euphonium

Dennis Wick Mouthpieces

Hörnchen from Jestädt

etc..

including his baritones

or Tübchen in F with 5 valves

or with 4 valves

or in Bb

Bb on the right/micro Tübchen on the left

and their trumpets as well

Tübchen valve closeup

The 5 valve Tübchen was an excellent instrument

The pocket Tübchen

A bass trumpet used to advertise for a plating company. Beautiful attention to detail

Ortiz Mouthpiece

Tools from Böhm und Meinl

etc

etc

etc

London Musical Instruments (LMI) Euphonium

and Eb Alto horn

The Chinese were there in force

Miraphone 191 copy

Yamaha copy

German Tool maker...wow QUALITY

Newer design Thein F tuba

closer detail of the Thein F tuba

Thein Tenor Tuba

Thein Cimbasso

Thein Contrabass Trombone

Wilson

more Wilson

Wilson Compensating BBb

Wilson 5/4 CC

Wilson rotary BBb

Wilson XS F tuba

Wilson XL (the bigger of the 2 new models)

i think this was the Wilson Eb or the older F model?

Wilson Rotary F

etc

Rudolph Meinl Tubas

etc

Rudolph Meinl 6/4 BBb

again in comparison to a 5/4 CC

Rudolph Meinl Rotary F

Rudolph Meinl Piston F

A BBb I think?

Rudolph Meinl CC tuba

Rudolph Meinl Bayreuth BBb 5/4 (for me, the best playing orchestra BBb tuba at the Messe)

They also make piccolo trumpets!

and cimbasso

J.Meinlschmidt double valves for tuba


and standard

A Haag "don't touch it!" Cimbasso...i'm sure it plays nice;)

York Tubas

Alexander BBb and F tubas

Alexander 163 BBb tuba...mine is from 1958 and is almost identical in feel and appearance!

Alexander 6 valve Ftuba

Closeup of the Alexander F tuba

Alexander Tenor Tuba

Closeup of the Alexander Tenor Tuba

Alexander Wagner Tuben

Adams CC 4/4 Tuba Prototype

Adams from the back

The 5 valve model

and another Adams prototype CC

They make valve sets as well

More Chinese Tubas!! 仆街

Chinese copy of a Miraphone 1291 CC

A Fafner in silver

Bruno Tilz Mouthpieces

B&S JBL F tuba

MW Thor on the left/MW Baer/2 on the right

new piston MW F tuba

etc

another new MW F tuba (Stefan Heiman model)

MW travel tuba

New Kanstul Tubas-Eb and CC

Kanstul CC tuba

etc

Kanstul Eb-this is almost identical to my 1920s York Eb! Lee Stofer sounded amazing on it, beautiful tone!

exBrass Custom F tuba

Besson 995 4/4 CC tuba, an excellent instrument, but why does it weigh as much as my 2165!?

Cerveny Cimbasso

Cerveny/Amati

....wow.......this should win a horn dorn award.............

Thank you for posting your pics!

Congrats, great pics. You've done a service for all who couldn't attend. Thanks, and great work.

Amazing and informative! Thanks!

Only tiny comment would be that the London Musical Instruments (LMI) ‘baritone’ really is an Eb alto horn. It takes up a recent trend, which should have been applied ages ago: the main tuning slide trigger.

Klaus

Thanks for your great photo work, 2165! We had a good visit at the booth. You're a fine player, indeed.

Oops! Gotta run to the booth!

Incredible post!!!
Congratulations!!!!

Super pics

mark

Great collection of pictures. Almost like being there. Almost....

GREAT photos! Do you take requests? I'd love to see some good shots that show detail in the Lätzsch bass trumpet and rotary valve compensating euphonium.

Jake- You the man. Awesome pics.

Sean

That are some great pictures 2165 !
The Messe is the closest to tuba heaven we will ever get...

For your information, the bass trumpet shown is from Peter Baumann in Hohenaschau : http://www.blechblasinstrumente.de/
Very much attention to detail indeed !

Did you try the willson 3100 RZ-4 rotary BBb ?
(mine should arrive next week I hope)

I shared your opinion on the Rudy Bayreuth when I visited the Messe 3 years ago.
Impressive craftsmanship.

Wim

What a great effort on your part. Wow is all I can say. Thank you so much.

Hi Everyone!

Thanks for the label corrections and picture format advice. It was brought to my attention that those of you using dial-up connections could have potential browser problems because of the number and size of the photos. I will sit down later and make a second version of the posting with only links to the photos.

To bbocaner: I'm sorry, but Lätszch was not at the Messe this year:(
I remember 2 years ago taking pictures of those instruments, but unfortunately, I can't find them..I will ask some friends who were with me, and if something turns up, I'll post it here for you.
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To Adam Peck: I think the Rudolph Meinl piston F is not being "mass produced" at the moment, but I don't know for sure. It's probably best to contact Rudolph Meinl or Lee Stofer.

To Wim: I did try the Wilson 3100 RZ-4 rotary BBb and i think you will enjoy your new horn!


Here are a few other random pics...
Inderbinen Trumpets
this is not photoshopped..

various models of Bb trumpets

KFC style...double battered dipped n' fried

For those of you from the Midwest, perhaps this is funny;)

however, jokes aside, the instruments are beautifully made!





Thein Horns

A random Thein tuba pic

Back shot of a JBL B&S F tuba

Bell detail from the new Shires trumpets

Random Mutes

This is what Lee Stofer had to listen to 9+hrs a day next to the Kanstul booth


Have a good night everyone!
Ciao
2165

Some of those designs are a little....different. But, what's wrong with a little style on the details?

That Thein french horn looks wild! Six rotors... Must be a triple horn...

Thanks again for the pics. Makes me want to attend next year...

Was the "KFC" trumpet's texture just extra metal added on for weight, or something else?

Hey, is it me or is there a brochure under the Chinese 1291 CC copy that shows a picture of a 6/4 on the right? Just wondering...

Joseph

UTSAtuba wrote:Hey, is it me or is there a brochure under the Chinese 1291 CC copy that shows a picture of a 6/4 on the right? Just wondering...

Joseph

That's a good eye. I went back and checked out the picture. I even tried blowing it up so that perhaps I could read what it said, but it was too pixelated. It is tough to tell if that is a different horn or a larger picture of the same horn. It's tough to tell at that angle the true dimensions of the horns in the pictures.

I forgot to mention this on my last post, but thanks so much for these amazing pictures. As another member said, you have done a service for all of us who couldn't make it.

2165 wrote:Chinese copy of a Miraphone 1291 CC

I've been interested in what the Chinese will be cloning soon (even though I have been debating back in forth in my head about the quality of such), and heard that there will be a 1291 CC copy out. But, I don't think the above picture is a copy of the horn. When zoomed in much more closely, the tag on the horn says Bb (could be a mistake, though). Also, the first valve slide dips down like the one on a King 2341 (?). In fact, I think the horn pictured here is this horn:



Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks!

Joseph

Hi Joseph,

haha! guilty as charged! I posted the wrong pic. The 1291 CC clone was behind the "king BBb" copy and I forgot to snap it. Yes, there was an ad mentioning 6/4 and 5/4 models, but no one I spoke to seemed to know anything about it.
I was disconcerned by the "Made in Germany" and "Made in USA" stenciled on the bells of obviously Chinese made instruments...
ciao
2165