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Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:51 pm**

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:16 pm**

Very cool- thank you!
How were the "big" Tubchen F and the Cerveny cimbasso?

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:36 pm**

Awesome! Thanks for the rundown!

Posted: **Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:44 am**

very nice set of pics! The coiled design on that thein F tuba's slides makes it seem like they're spring loaded.

I'd love to own one of those Kanstul EEbs (and probably convert it the way people convert the big york tubas they're based on

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Posted: **Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:28 am**

I know these have been discussed ad nauseum on the boards, but did you have a chance to play any of these Chinese copies?

I would be very curious about the King 2341 copy. I haven't even seen that on the market yet.

Thanks.

Posted: **Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:47 am**

2165 wrote:Hi Everyone,
let's try this again!
These are photos taken during the 2010 Frankfurt Musikmesse in Frankfurt, Germany.
I hope you enjoy them!
2165

More Chinese Tubas!! 仆街

thanks for the photos!

but why 仆街?

Posted: **Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:17 am**

Shoot - now zero pictures come up... I'm drooling here!

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Posted: **Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:32 am**

The photos didn;t load. All I got was a 'visit something or other' message

Posted: **Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:41 am**

Liberty Mo wrote:I would be very curious about the King 2341 copy. I haven't even seen that on the market yet.

If you're referring to this horn-
http://tubamm.com/site/big/TU2000.htm

It plays very nicely, though I'm not sure it is really a 2341 clone.

Posted: **Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:33 am**

YAAAAYYY!!! Thanks for the re-post - I just had a ball.

exBrass = best F tuba ever? Looks nice - what did you like about it?

The Thein ferules/slide tubes are an old technique and it makes for a gorgeous instrument!

Thanks for these pics!

Posted: **Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:09 am**

LJV wrote:
Bob Kolada wrote:
Liberty Mo wrote:I would be very curious about the King 2341 copy. I haven't even seen that on the market yet.
If you're referring to this horn-
http://tubamm.com/site/big/TU2000.htm

It plays very nicely, though I'm not sure it is really a 2341 clone.
This tuba is based on the Hirsbrunner knock-off body. It's the Chinese attempt at what was called in the US an "HB 21."

How? The valve block (and key) is completely different.

Joseph "confused"

Posted: **Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:15 pm**

Hi Everyone,
Sorry for the late reply.
Hope this answers your questions!

To Bob, the 5 valve Tübchen was an excellent horn. Easy to play with a very unique sound and character! Somewhat of a cross between a rotary F tuba and a cimbasso...
The Cerveny Cimbasso had a HUGE sound for a cimbasso, but I wish I could have tried a smaller mouthpiece on it or at least had more than 20min play time.

To Liberty Mo, I tried every tuba I photographed (except for the Rudolph Meinl piston BBb and the Haag Cimbasso) including all the Chinese horns..
Most of the Chinese tubas seemed generally put together OK. The 191 BBb/ 1291 CC Miraphone and 2341 King copies were heavier than the originals, but otherwise played alright for me although they do have a certain "industrial" feel. I didn't think much of them engraving "made in Germany" on the bell.

To mctsang, aiyo! Sorry lah, too many Stephen Chow films...無厘頭...

To Bob again, Joseph, and LJV...it was a King 2341 clone..not a perfect clone, but very "inspired by"

To J.c.Sherman, the exBrass F tuba was for me, a fantastic instrument. It had all the character of a custom handmade instrument, but with impeccable intonation and response. I hope someday I will have the funds to buy one..

ciao!
2165

Posted: **Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:16 pm**

2165 wrote:To mctsang, aiyo! Sorry lah, too many Stephen Chow films...無厘頭...

cool! LOL

p.s you know Pang(trombone player), right?

Posted: **Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:41 am**

2165 wrote:I didn't think much of them engraving "made in Germany" on the bell.

Surely that is just plain fraud! It is incredible they were allowed to display such at Frankfurt Musikmesse!

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:39 am**

did you the oportunity to test a B&S GR55 Bb tuba at musikmesse?
I´m interested in it...

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:20 am**

2165 wrote:the 5 valve Tübchen was an excellent horn. Easy to play with a very unique sound and character! Somewhat of a cross between a rotary F tuba and a cimbasso...

Cool- thanks!

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:32 pm**

Hello!
What did you think of 2250 MW?
Their sound is more like a YFB 822 or the German?
It is an instrument worth?
Grateful!
Cleverson João Zavatto Teche

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