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Re: rim feedback
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:17 pm
by imperialbari
You may double the number of options by providing versions with indentations for the nose.
Klaus
Re: rim feedback
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:19 pm
by Wyvern
So what is the smaller cup size? Does it have more rounded inner edge? Looks like may be from pictures
Re: rim feedback
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:43 pm
by Peach
Rather than introduce another rim profile to offer a smaller cup opening, I'd rather see smaller versions of your two existing (very good) options. Adding another style could end up with folks requesting that contour in a different I.D.!
I'd love to see versions of both 'standard' rims in 32, 32.5, & 33mm personally.
You'd know better than anyone: Do folks complain about the current rim styles? I'd have thought rounded and flatish ought to suit most...
FWIW, I've been using my Solo #2 with a Loud 32mm rim (LM15) and it's great for me as a bass tuba piece.
MP
Re: rim feedback
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:16 pm
by cjk
LJV wrote:I'm with Malcolm. A slightly smaller #2 would be nice. Just pull the whole thing (inner and out diameters) in 0.5 mm. Keep the rim width the same. A wide rim defeats the purpose of the smaller inner to me.
I agree with Malcolm and LJV.
I would just make a #2 style rim with a 32.6 inner dimension ("close enough" to a Helleberg or Laskey 30 inner dimension), but the width and contour of the rim the same as the #2. You could call it a #1.6.
The #2 rim contour is unintentionally VERY similar to old Marzan rims. So the #2 (much like the old Marzans) is one of the most comfortable rims ever.
Re: rim feedback
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:15 pm
by Wyvern
bloke wrote:I've recently been playing a much larger tuba.
2165?
Re: rim feedback
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:28 am
by iiipopes
Sounds like some cross-marketing with the LOUD rims is in order, for example the LM7 rim is a good rim in the @32.6 mm range.
Re: rim feedback
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:36 am
by MaryAnn
What Klaus said; even though my upper lip is on the long side, large mouthpieces still bonk my nose. There are large people who do not have long upper lips who cannot play a large mouthpiece for the same reason. It gets painful at times, and too much lower lip produces a bad sound for a particular type of embouchure (Roger Lewis, in one of his very helpful posts about sound and technique, noted that someone who is using too much lower lip will get a nasal sound.)
MA
PS: Personally, I'm waiting for the KellyBloke.
Re: rim feedback
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:44 am
by iiipopes
bloke wrote:iiipopes wrote:Sounds like some cross-marketing with the LOUD rims is in order, for example the LM7 rim is a good rim in the @32.6 mm range.
Not-at-all. I am
specifically avoiding any "borrowing" of rim contours, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE Houser makes mouthpieces for both Joe Murphy and myself.
Further,
no one who has emailed me has asked that I adapt an "LM-7 style" rim to these mouthpieces.
Finally, the Loud rims and Sellmansberger rims are not compatible. It would require complete re-tooling anyway to "steal" Joe Murphy's designs for use with my underparts.
I stand corrected and apologize. I thought the threading was the same.
Re: rim feedback
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:44 am
by T. J. Ricer
bloke wrote:
...but I'm certainly not so unsympathetic as to not be able to imagine that a "new" little piece of face playing the tuba may make one feel a bit "exposed"...
bloke "3% more lip to tighten / 3% more air to produce...whatever...' can be done......but my current leaning is to offer a #1 and a #2 with a 32.3mm cup diameter (perhaps a #1A and a #2A), and call it a day."
This sounds perfect, Joe. I love your MPs for just about everything, but sustained high playing (like the second movement of the Barbara York Concerto) does make me feel a bit hung out to dry with the wide openings. Maybe it's just my own personal hang-up, but I think that tiny "pulling in" would be ideal, even if it is just a psycho-somatic change. (Voice in my head: "This one's smaller, I'm invincible!"

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thanks for allowing us to influence further development of your already great product!
be well,
T. J.