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Posted: **Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:40 pm**

Who made the Bach Mercedes tuba? Or should I ask which company supplied the parts for the Mercedes tuba?

Posted: **Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:03 pm**

They were made by Bach, but with the tooling purchased from Olds. They had 3 and 4 valve versions of the Mercedes tubas and were pretty much almost identical to the Olds 0-99 and Reynolds. Pretty decent little horns.

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:00 pm**

Thanks, appreciate the answer.

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:04 pm**

Do I remember seeing Bach Mercedes rotary BBb tubas as well?

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:16 pm**

Alex C wrote:Thanks, appreciate the answer.

Mercedes BBb tuba 4RV (made by B&S for the Selmer-Bach corporation sometime around 1970 or 1975):

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:55 pm**

B&S-VMI-BBb-tubas1996_Page_1.jpg

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:02 pm**

1985B&S-BBbTuba5RV.jpg

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:26 pm**

bloke wrote:' appears as though Selmer's "Schneider" was the model 101, whereas the (rotary) "Bach Mercedes" was the model 103...

...yes...??

Yup.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:16 pm**

bloke wrote:built (from 1980...or 1981) for a few years at the Bach #2 plant - around the corner from the Bach plant where the Stradivarius instruments are made.

A couple of minor differences included

- pistons that were (??) a couple of thousandths of an inch larger diameter than the Olds/Reynolds pistons (just for $h!+$...??)
- "friction"-fit waterkey PINS (rather than Olds/Reynolds waterkey SCREWS)

So the put the Bach name on an Olds tuba and cheapened it up so they could raise the price. Typical.

The larger pistons are curious.

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