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Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:26 am
by sugawi
I was looking to order sheet music so I can start practicing early for the event in Disneyland and found that they have 3 different books:
1. Bass clef-C, four part score form (tuba/euph).
2. Treble clef-Bb, two upper parts (euph/baritone).
3. Treble clef tubas, Eb/Bb, Salvation Army, British Brass Band players.
I was wondering what is the difference between option 1 and 3. Is Salvation Army version is a sheet music in treble clef for tuba? Are the parts the same or different?
I've been playing baritone in treble clef and recently picked up tuba and learning bass clef.

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:23 am
by The Big Ben
sugawi wrote:I was looking to order sheet music so I can start practicing early for the event in Disneyland and found that they have 3 different books:
1. Bass clef-C, four part score form (tuba/euph).
2. Treble clef-Bb, two upper parts (euph/baritone).
3. Treble clef tubas, Eb/Bb, Salvation Army, British Brass Band players.
I was wondering what is the difference between option 1 and 3. Is Salvation Army version is a sheet music in treble clef for tuba? Are the parts the same or different?
I've been playing baritone in treble clef and recently picked up tuba and learning bass clef.
I'd get a treble clef book for baritones/euphs and a bass clef tuba book. Might be easier to do it that way in this place and time.

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:15 am
by pgym
1 is all four parts at concert pitch; 3 is just tuba parts transposed.

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:25 am
by sugawi
I forgot to mention that my tuba is BBb. My understanding that option 1 is for C tuba and I'll have to transpose for BBb tuba. Is the option 3 then a better choice for BBb tuba? Then why is it in a treble clef?

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:48 am
by Z-Tuba Dude
The first book is in concert pitch. All tubas (BBb, CC, Eb, F) play in concert pitch, when reading bass clef parts.

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:55 am
by pgym
Bb and Eb basses are the traditional tubas for Salvation Army and British Brass Band.

All instruments in those ensembles, with the exception of bass trombone, are transposing (key) and traditionally scored in treble clef in order to facilitate a player switching instruments in order to fill in missing parts, without having to learn different fingerings for any give note: a written middle C is (not) fingered open (no valves down), a first space F is first valve, an A one line above the staff is 1-2, regardless of whether you're playing a tuba, euphonium, baritone, tenor horn, flugel, cornet, or Eb sop. cornet.

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:19 am
by sugawi
Thank you for explanation. I think I'll go with Salvation Army and British Brass Band sheet music. I have been straggling to learn bass clef. But with this option I can read music and have the same fingering I have learned for trumpet and baritone. But I guess I still will be struggling when I play with other bands that do not have sheet music for tuba in treble clef.

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:55 am
by David Richoux
It is a good idea to learn bass clef as soon as you can - in the US, anyway, most tuba music is written that way. It is also good to learn string bass/bass guitar music which is usually written an octave higher than is actually played (looks like bass clef baritone music.)

While doing that, learn to sight transpose - play from anything, and play from chord charts (guitar/banjo) and in any key - and importantly: learn to memorize and improvise!

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:08 pm
by Rev Rob
David Richoux wrote:While doing that, learn to sight transpose - play from anything, and play from chord charts (guitar/banjo) and in any key - and importantly: learn to memorize and improvise!
Slowly am struggling myself to learn treble clef and play the note in the given key signature. My mind is a bit sluggish in transposing to treble clef, very sluggish when site reading a transposing an octave down.

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:49 pm
by David Richoux
Rev Rob wrote:
David Richoux wrote:While doing that, learn to sight transpose - play from anything, and play from chord charts (guitar/banjo) and in any key - and importantly: learn to memorize and improvise!
Slowly am struggling myself to learn treble clef and play the note in the given key signature. My mind is a bit sluggish in transposing to treble clef, very sluggish when site reading a transposing an octave down.
I am not all that great at it either - but after 35 years playing in Dixie/trad and bands that don't rely on much printed music I am getting better. Being handed a string bass book for a fast paced dance band (without rehearsal or many "fake chords" noted) makes for a very interesting fill-in gig!

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:14 am
by sugawi
Thank you for all your advice. I want to get a Bass clef book. I'll have a head start and will continue working on my skills. If the books were $5 I would buy all of them but at $18 a piece I have to narrow my choice. I tend to rely more on my ear rather than sight and I might order that Tubashop Quartet CD to play along and help with learning.

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:18 pm
by Rick Denney
David Richoux wrote:While doing that, learn to sight transpose - play from anything, and play from chord charts (guitar/banjo) and in any key - and importantly: learn to memorize and improvise!
And don't forget to make a World-Class Sound.

Rick "thinking David has given the OP a few years of work to do" Denney

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:38 pm
by Chriss2760
Tuba Christmas at Disneyland? When would that be and where can I get more info? Please.

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:22 pm
by sugawi
Chriss2760 wrote:Tuba Christmas at Disneyland? When would that be and where can I get more info? Please.
http://www.tubachristmas.com/readtcloc.php?TCState=CA

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:43 pm
by sloan
It's a Blues riff in B - follow me for the changes.

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:38 am
by ekwjr
If you are going from Treble Clef Trumpets, Cornets, Baritiones, Euphoniums, and want to go to a Contrabass Tuba, go to a CC.
They finger exactly like your treble clef horns listed above.
Example, 1st C below staff is open; first E on the staff is open, F is 1, G is open, top line A is 1,2.
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Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:51 pm
by catkins522
the elephant wrote:
sloan wrote:It's a Blues riff in B - follow me for the changes.
So your real name is Marty?
No, it is not. It's Calvin Kline!!! He is a dreamboat!!!

BTW...today is the 25th anniversary of "Back to the Future".

Charles

Re: Tubachristmas sheet music

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:09 pm
by Amilcare
I am proud to say that all of the extra books originated with the Houston TUBACHRISTMAS.