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well you read the title...any ideas? i'm looking for something that will give me a lively tone with some brightness but at the same time i want a full rounded sound. some of the mouthpieces i've tried have given me a thin sound that i just dont like. i've already played a shilke 69C4 and thought possitively about it. any other suggestions?

Try a mouthpiece from Joseph Klier. Usually you see them listed as JK. They have them at Dillon's. Very well made and quite inexpensive.

As a bass trombone player doubling, it's taken some time to find a small mouthpiece that doesn't necessarily sound small, and the JK 7B is the best so far. The B cup is sort of medium depth for a CC tuba, and you can get a rim in whatever size you're comfortable with.

Try lasky 28H shallower cup nice 'straight edged' rim

me wrote:well you read the title...any ideas? i'm looking for something that will give me a lively tone with some brightness but at the same time i want a full rounded sound. some of the mouthpieces i've tried have given me a thin sound that i just dont like. i've already played a shilke 69C4 and thought possitively about it. any other suggestions?

I know you don't want to hear this, but many good players make lovely full rounded sounds on simple mouthpieces like a Conn Helleberg. If your sound is thin, maybe it isn't the mouthpiece.

Players like me (i.e., not that good) use mouthpieces to make up for something we don't have, with the result that we get one thing and lose another. I gravitated to very large mouthpieces to get a big sound, but with the result that my sound lost clarity. The best compromise for me has been the PT-48. But as I improve I sound better on the Laskey 30H that I'm now using with the bigger ensembles. These are big mouthpieces for solo work, though I haven't notice that they make any particular music harder to play as a result.

The lowly Conn Helleberg, with its sharp rim, relatively narrow diameter, and deep funnel cup might be the solution for you, or at least a good starting point. It will be very different than the Schilke you mentioned.

Rick "playing a solo this week using the PT-48 on a 6/4 Holton" Denney

thanks for the suggestions so far. i just thought i should add in that i've used a Conn helleburg and a Conn 7B extensively with the horn and neither of them have worked out. i mentioned the schilke because i liked the sound and wanted to know of some others that were similar.

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You could also give the Yamaha Jim Self model a try.

What do you think about the Dillon/Sheridan line? I have tried the entire S series, and although it is a "solo" series of instruments, the different sizes make them work for almost any situation. The are extremely comfortable, and reasonably priced. In the end, settled on the S3.

agreed, but a deep V cup and a shallow C cup will produce very different "shades" of the same overall sound.

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Rick "who wonders over a similar conundrum in his own house" Denney