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Kanstul York CC
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:28 pm
by TYA
Hi has anyone tried this tuba yet? Can anyone tell me anything about it the good and the bad thank you.
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:08 pm
by tubaguy9
Here's a few topics that may help:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38246&hilit=model+90+kanstul+90
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37280&hilit=model+90+kanstul+90
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=40841&p=355535&hili ... 90#p355535
The Horn Guys website wrote:Coming soon, based on the classic York model 33, with 4 front pistons and one rotor. The prototype is amazing....
3/11/10 - I just played the third prototype yesterday at the Kanstul factory. I just ordered on in silver, and I will most likely sell my Hirsbrunner HB-2 and will play this instead. It's that good. This latest version has larger bore valve section. First through third pistons are .689", fourth is .710", and the fifth rotor is .734". Also, the bell and bottom bow have been made lighter.
Includes SKB385W hard case. Silver plate, add $500
I believe Lee Stofer has the best price on these currently...
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:14 pm
by averagejoe
I was just poking around the Horn Guys website yesterday and it said that Steve Ferguson has his personal Kanstul York CC at his shop available to test out. I don't know where you are but if you are near La Crescenta, California you have an opportunity to test one.
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:17 pm
by Casey Tucker
I was going back and forth between Mr. Stofer's site and the Kanstul site and comparing the pics. Why is it that the one on Lee's site looks completely different than the one on Kanstul's site? For example, the one on Lee's site has the 5th valve linkage on the back side of the horn and the 5th valve/main tuning slides seem closer to the lead pipe. Am I missing something here?
-CT
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:34 pm
by bububassboner
With the kanstuls you need to remember that
A. These are prototypes. The one on steves site is a true prototype.
B. Kanstuls tubas have so many options. Plus he will build however you want.
I have played all the new kanstul tubas (and own the f) and they are great. I'm hoping to spend more time with the cc but with the time I had with it I thought it was great. Kanstul has a good thing going on.
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:06 am
by averagejoe
bububassboner wrote:
I have played all the new kanstul tubas (and own the f) and they are great.
Speaking of which where is the review and pictures you promised of your new Kanstul f?
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:08 am
by bort
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Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:38 am
by Casey Tucker
bort,
The one that I'm referencing is the horn right below it. It's the Kanstul 90-S 4/4 CC. If you take a look at some of the alternate photos there are a lot of differences when compared to the one on the Kanstul site.
@bububassboner: The pictures I am referencing are on Lee Stofer's & Kanstul's website and they are indeed production. I've seen the prototype on Hornguys.com.
-CT
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:20 am
by bort
Aah, found it. For some reason, my browser wasn't loading Lee's page correctly.
Dang... if you want a classic or neo-classic American-style tuba, looks like Lee is your man!
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:32 pm
by GC
This is just the tip of the iceberg. He's got a bunch. In particular, the York 712 BBb Symphony bass is one heck of a great horn.
I wish the CC Kanstul had been there when I was there a month ago. I got a chance to play the prototype Kanstul F while I was there; it's a neat little horn with superb design and build quality. It's a shame that I'm probably the only person who ever played that horn who sounded lousy on it. F tuba is just not my thing.
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:39 pm
by bort
GC wrote:This is just the tip of the iceberg. He's got a bunch.
Is this [tuba] heaven?
No, it's Iowa.
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:16 pm
by GC
Seriously, it's some of the most gorgeous country I've ever seen. I wouldn't mind moving there.
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:24 pm
by TYA
Does the Kanstul york copy actually have that old York sound?
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:20 pm
by iiipopes
TYA wrote:Does the Kanstul york copy actually have that old York sound?
According to those who have played them -- in a word -- yes.
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:32 am
by tubademon999
I have been to the Kanstul factory, and I have played each of their new horns. They currently have two CC's and two F's which they are trying to perfect before they mass produce. They have the classic "york" sound, very flexible, and right now they are just working out some minor fluxuations in intonation. I can't suggest a better horn as of now than the new Kanstul horns.
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:10 am
by TYA
I know this tuba is branded 4/4 so how would it compare to a 5/4 like the Willson 3050?
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:18 am
by oedipoes
TYA wrote:I know this tuba is branded 4/4 so how would it compare to a 5/4 like the Willson 3050?
I have not seen the Kanstul live, but as the Willson is HUGE I guess the Kanstul is smaller and lighter.
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:12 am
by TYA
oedipoes wrote:TYA wrote:I know this tuba is branded 4/4 so how would it compare to a 5/4 like the Willson 3050?
I have not seen the Kanstul live, but as the Willson is HUGE I guess the Kanstul is smaller and lighter.
How does the sound compare
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:59 pm
by JCalkin
@Lee:
The Kanstul 90 is listed on your website as being priced at $5250 for Lacquer and $8900 for silver. This must be a misprint, as I'm sure silver plate does not command a $3650 premium?
Re: Kanstul York CC
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:34 pm
by Rick Denney
TYA wrote:oedipoes wrote:TYA wrote:I know this tuba is branded 4/4 so how would it compare to a 5/4 like the Willson 3050?
I have not seen the Kanstul live, but as the Willson is HUGE I guess the Kanstul is smaller and lighter.
How does the sound compare
Utterly different. The 4/4 Kanstuls I have tried are real 4/4 instruments. They are not grand orchestral horns. They have a big, resonant sound, but they are not intended as competition for something like the 3050.
Rick "4/4 before quarter inflation" Denney