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What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:04 am
by UTSAtuba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Xz5LzTv5Q" target="_blank

Just checking out other peoples' auditions, and noticed this interesting horn (the first one). Any thoughts about what it is?

Joseph

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:52 am
by Bob Kolada
It almost looks familiar... Whatever it is, after hearing him play it I'm not so interested in it. :P Nor the second horn. Why is he playing it by memory for a recorded audition if he DOESN'T KNOW IT?!? :D Also, that (his playing, but also somewhat my comments) sounds bad. Bad attacks and a somewhat-left-out middle note. Jeez I'm such a jerk. No one listen to ME play!! :D Me screwing around on youtube playing random stuff on a horn I've never played in a group is one thing, some friggin classically-trained putz screwing up on his pre-recorded audition is laughable.

Also, I have little respect for young adults getting into the (deep breath) picking-an-F-for-it's-German-sound-BUT-picking-a-piston-C-irrefriggingardless because some older dude told them to drop 20,000 on such, or they read it on Tubenet :shock: ,...

I really don't care what people choose to play, as long as they don't rag on other people's choices or pick what they did blindly (as so many people seem to do, which is probably why I in turn get all like-the-way-I-usually-am :D). But, you know what I -really-hate? Friggin music ed majors (bless them! music ed is important, only speaking ill of some of them) that think they know everything about music because they had a half hour lesson once a week and took a one semester woodwind methods class once. I know -plenty- of people like that. Ridiculous. And I cannot right now think of a one of them who is musical in the slightest. You hitting most of your notes? 8 semesters (plus whatever in high school...) has you cleanly double tonguing? Good for you! You still sound like a synthesizer version of a synthesizer (I originally wrote "moose" here :D)! Technical faults can be temporarily tolerated and worked on. A lack of musicality is a bit more damning.

But no, I do not know what F tuba that is. :D

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:55 am
by swillafew
Don't know; at least he puts some air into it. Many on Youtube are making very passive performances.

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:13 am
by k001k47
Bob Kolada wrote: blahblahblah
But no, I do not know what F tuba that is. :D
Image

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:27 am
by k001k47
k001k47 wrote:
Bob Kolada wrote: blahblahblah
But no, I do not know what F tuba that is. :D
some picture
Image

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:28 am
by k001k47
k001k47 wrote:
k001k47 wrote:
Bob Kolada wrote: blahblahblah
But no, I do not know what F tuba that is. :D
some picture
some other picture
Image


Ooops. I tripple posted.

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:54 am
by ckalaher1
Hey the guy put himself out there, seems to be having fun trying his best. Who knows how anyone goes about picking his or her instruments, and frankly who cares? To each his own, not my money.

I've seen that F tuba before, but I too am drawing a blank on the name at the moment.

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:14 am
by imperialbari
The fairly short stack makes me think of some Cerveny F tubas.

Klaus

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:11 am
by bort
imperialbari wrote:The fairly short stack makes me think of some Cerveny F tubas.

Klaus
Kind of... looks about the right size, but the leadpipe is funky (so high!) and the 4th valve wrap is different (on the Cervenys I've seen, it wraps to the back). Maybe an older one? Or some sort of Asian-built F?

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:16 am
by TheBerlinerTuba
Hallo,
Both tubas were made by Gronitz.
The F is a FZ127 and the CC is the PCK 5/4.
I believe there are some pics on tubnet if you search under gronitz
grüß
2165

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:46 am
by JHardisk
Bob Kolada wrote:It almost looks familiar... Whatever it is, after hearing him play it I'm not so interested in it. :P Nor the second horn. Why is he playing it by memory for a recorded audition if he DOESN'T KNOW IT?!? :D Also, that (his playing, but also somewhat my comments) sounds bad. Bad attacks and a somewhat-left-out middle note. Jeez I'm such a jerk. No one listen to ME play!! :D Me screwing around on youtube playing random stuff on a horn I've never played in a group is one thing, some friggin classically-trained putz screwing up on his pre-recorded audition is laughable.

Also, I have little respect for young adults getting into the (deep breath) picking-an-F-for-it's-German-sound-BUT-picking-a-piston-C-irrefriggingardless because some older dude told them to drop 20,000 on such, or they read it on Tubenet :shock: ,...

I really don't care what people choose to play, as long as they don't rag on other people's choices or pick what they did blindly (as so many people seem to do, which is probably why I in turn get all like-the-way-I-usually-am :D). But, you know what I -really-hate? Friggin music ed majors (bless them! music ed is important, only speaking ill of some of them) that think they know everything about music because they had a half hour lesson once a week and took a one semester woodwind methods class once. I know -plenty- of people like that. Ridiculous. And I cannot right now think of a one of them who is musical in the slightest. You hitting most of your notes? 8 semesters (plus whatever in high school...) has you cleanly double tonguing? Good for you! You still sound like a synthesizer version of a synthesizer (I originally wrote "moose" here :D)! Technical faults can be temporarily tolerated and worked on. A lack of musicality is a bit more damning.

But no, I do not know what F tuba that is. :D
Bob,

You should consider switching to decaf, dude.

Seriously... :mrgreen:

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:53 am
by imperialbari
Maybe a little less Piña in the Kolada, or the other way round.

K

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:35 pm
by UTSAtuba
Figures. I put a post simply asking what this lesser known instrument is, and I get way-off answers.

Thanks 2165, for the model of the horn.

Joseph "this thread can close now...or leave it open for people to piss on"

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:08 pm
by The Big Ben
Lighten up, my man....

TubeNet is many things to many people. Bob gets to go mental, people get to make fun of him and DP gets to be rude. And you get your answer.

Jeff "Not pissing on the thread" Benedict

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:25 pm
by bort
Rude? But he always knows where the German bier women photos are! :D

Re: What brand of F tuba is this?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:57 pm
by jtuba
Bob may have been harsh, but would any one of us seeking a job where a preliminary recording was required submit any of the videos posted? I didn't see all of them, but what I watched today was not very good. I don't know what the aim of the Youtube symphony is, but if Tilson Thomas is involved, folks need to bring their A+ game and not post videos with technical errors.