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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby bort » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:27 pm

Neptune wrote:What a dreadful thing to happen.

I wonder on a rotary tuba it would be possible to move the keys to the left hand side and put temporary linkage to the valves? If you don't have a rotary tuba, then you could get an old one to convert - to be restored to normal and sold once you recover.

Good luck!


Oh yeah... didn't Dan Oberloh (I think...?) do something like this?
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby The Big Ben » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:06 pm

bort wrote:
Neptune wrote:What a dreadful thing to happen.

I wonder on a rotary tuba it would be possible to move the keys to the left hand side and put temporary linkage to the valves? If you don't have a rotary tuba, then you could get an old one to convert - to be restored to normal and sold once you recover.

Good luck!


Oh yeah... didn't Dan Oberloh (I think...?) do something like this?


It was a front loader euphonium Scroll down the page: http://www.oberloh.com/gallery/Complete.htm

A top loader might be easier to convert. It might be possible by loosening the braces, rotating the valve cluster and making a custom mouthpipe. Of course, I'm not a horn tech. I don't even play one on TV.
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby bort » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:11 pm

Not what I was thinking of, but still cool. I remember seeing a photo of a rotary tuba (like a 186) made to be left-handed.
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby Rick Denney » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:40 pm

Bove wrote:Are there a variety of sturdy stands like that for regular tubas too?


The classic stand of this type is a Wenger Tuba Tamer.

http://www.wengercorp.com/Chairs/Tuba.html

I was also thinking it would be possible to build a temporary linkage setup for a rotary tuba. The stop arms would be backwards--but the linkage could be temporarily soldered to the left branch and threaded-rod linkages could be built in a short time. I think the only thing any tinkerer could do is deal with the stop arms.

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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby Art Hovey » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:56 am

I wonder on a rotary tuba it would be possible to move the keys to the left hand side and put temporary linkage to the valves? If you don't have a rotary tuba, then you could get an old one to convert


I have seen that done on an Eb Saint Pete. It's not too complicated. The guy who had it used to play a three-valve front-action tuba left-handed, and did it for years.

Bloke's suggestion is still the simplest, but most top-action tubas can also be played left-handed if your arm is not too short.

Good luck!
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby Dan Schultz » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:11 am

I know of a Schilke (Yamaha) YBB-321 left hand tuba in the Indianapolis, Indiana are that may be for sale. Not exactly a professional tuba but let me know by private email and I'll put you in touch with the owner.
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby Robb » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:29 pm

Bove,

Neptune is right, any competent brass repairman can make this modification as long as the rotary valves have ball and socket linkages. Here's a Mirafone that I modified a few years ago, this guy could still us his right thumb.
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby Casey Tucker » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:39 pm

Such terrible news!

I have a friend that I met back in high school that has a Miraphone 188/186 (can't remember) that has the valves redirected to the left for medical reasons. His name is Eddie Brown and his username is Ejbrown1. I'm not sure if he frequents the board much but you might try to PM him to possibly get some advice as to how he approached the situation. Good luck!

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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby BRSousa » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:35 pm

A rotary tuba modification makes alot of sense. To do the same on a piston horn would require a greater deal of work. Don't bend yourself into a pretzel to play. I can't imagine that having to reach a great distance around your horn can do anything good for your airway...
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby Tom » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:25 pm

Casey Tucker wrote:Such terrible news!

I have a friend that I met back in high school that has a Miraphone 188/186 (can't remember) that has the valves redirected to the left for medical reasons. His name is Eddie Brown and his username is Ejbrown1. I'm not sure if he frequents the board much but you might try to PM him to possibly get some advice as to how he approached the situation. Good luck!

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I crossed paths with Eddie a few times years ago.

For a couple of years he had a St. Pete that was converted to play with the left hand. I believe he eventually ended up with a Miraphone 186 setup the same way. He went to UNT (I think) to study with Don Little...might be able to track him down that way?
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby Bove » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:54 pm

Thanks to everyone for all the advice! You have all been very helpful.

update: Matt Walters is converting one of my rotary tubas for left hand use. I'll put it on a Tuba Tamer, and should be all set for the next few months.
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby Tabor » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:16 pm

I think the rotary conversion makes sense.


This would be another possible design option:

http://forums.chisham.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=41860
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby Phil Dawson » Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:24 pm

I found that I can use the valves on my Miraphone 1290 and my Conn 3J with my left hand. It is not the most comfortable situation but it will work. I am wondering if you checked various front action piston valve horns that you might find one that would work for you without the cost of alterations. Too bad that Walter Sear isn't here any more as his shop used to have a great many different models of horns.
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby ScottM » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:26 am

About 30+ years ago I did a left hand conversion for a tubist who had a severe long term injury to their right hand and arm. Even then it was expensive as it involved about two weeks of labor as we also altered the lead pipe to come across the top bow for better balance. The reach "around the front option" should work and if you can find one of the valve top action Yamahas you might even be able to use the fourth valve. A smart repairman might be able to work out an extention to make the valve reachable with your pinky. A Besson might work too as you might be able to use your right hand to depress the fourth valve on a besson without putting any real strain or pressure on your arm.
The music shop is closed so no can help with a conversion and frankly it was a real pain to do.
Good luck and get well soon!!
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby catkins522 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:36 pm

I was looking for a left handed tuba around 1 year ago, due to a stroke many, many moons ago. I was going to covert either a MW 186 (BBb) and/or a cheap Chinese tuba. However, after talking to 2 repairmens (both of them either was pro or studied with major university professor), I decieded to go with a piston valves instead of rotories. No cost repair, but you will need to practice a little due to the arragements of the right finger placement. I am very happy and now playing with a small community band.

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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby KiltieTuba » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:35 pm

Found this one. Pretty sure it's a piston
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby J.c. Sherman » Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:16 pm

Neptune wrote:What a dreadful thing to happen.

I wonder on a rotary tuba it would be possible to move the keys to the left hand side and put temporary linkage to the valves? If you don't have a rotary tuba, then you could get an old one to convert - to be restored to normal and sold once you recover.

Good luck!


That wouldn't be excruciatingly difficult.
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Re: Injured, and looking for a left handed tuba.

Postby MileMarkerZero » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:41 pm

This is the best pic I could find of one, but the Alex 173 has the valves "flipped" so that the 2nd slide points out to the left and the linkage attaches to the valves on the backside of the horn:

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That might make this horn easier to convert to left hand if you can find one. One other thing about these horns (having noodled around on one at a TC several years ago) is that the valve throw is very short. I think that's mostly due to a mechanical advantage gained by the differing lengths of the linkage rods, but it felt like the valve throw was about halfway between a standard rotary tuba and a french horn. About like an old Conn short-action set.
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