Who really made it?

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bloke wrote: (Czech? Chinese? whaa?)
Are the questions ... 1) Where are they made ... 2) How is the quality?

The Blokes (sorry, Joe) are having the same problems with the high cost of labor as we are here in the US. I'll bet the F E Olds horns are being produced all or in part in Asia just like some of the other familiar 'name brands'. Actually, why would 'where are they made' even be a factor as long as the quality is acceptable? I'm curious, Joe.... where are they made?
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Grooving for Heaven wrote:never mind, it's an Amati...
That was my thought--an ABB 621. A close look at the valve caps is the giveaway. One of these days, someone is going to clue Amati about their crappy piston valves...

Aren't the EM Winston horns also Amatis?
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bloke wrote:So it's Czech...(Thanks!)
Where parts are made and where products are assembled are just a guessing game any more. When I travel abroad I find it quite interesting that I see the same import crap that I see here in the US ... except the boxes aren't marked 'made in China' or otherwise.... giving one the impression the goods are made where they are sold.
Five or six years ago I had the opportunity to tour the Nogales, Arizona UMI plant. Of course, it's now closed. Even then, the sax/clarinet keys were mostly made offshore. Only the bodies and some large parts were being made in Nogales.
I strongly suspect even Amati is buying parts whever they can find them the cheapest.
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Miah wrote:Looks alot like my Olds 99
Except that one has 4 valves and is shiny
Mine is 3 valve and not so shiney Wish i had the 4th valve
Nothing like your O99--the O99 was a very good 3/4 sized tuba; bore somewhere around 0.655-ish. Be happy with your 099--it's a very nice instrument, farly close kin to a Conn 5J (smaller bell and 3 valves, though).

The trombonist in my quintet still plays his Olds Standard, that he bought used in 1947. It's got an octagonal slide and is a very ince old horn.

About the only place still building Olds/Reynolds type instruments is Kanstul.
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So then, who makes the NO98, top action Bb 3 valves?
http://feolds.com/images/tuba/no98.jpg
it has a distinctive fold over on the third valve slide that I don't see on the comparable Amati model.
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jacobg wrote:So then, who makes the NO98, top action Bb 3 valves?
http://feolds.com/images/tuba/no98.jpg
it has a distinctive fold over on the third valve slide that I don't see on the comparable Amati model.
That one resembles a low-end B&S BBb. The "flip" in the 3rd valve slide and the two-tone scheme on the valve caps looks a lot like one. But I don't know if B&S makes a tuba with the tuning slide in the leadpipe...
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Aren't the EM Winston horns also Amatis?
Cerveny has been producing the E.M. Winston horns, or at least portions of them, from what I remember reading. But I could be wrong.
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Dean E wrote:
Aren't the EM Winston horns also Amatis?
Cerveny has been producing the E.M. Winston horns, or at least portions of them, from what I remember reading. But I could be wrong.
Cerveny=division of Amati.
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Chuck(G) wrote:
Grooving for Heaven wrote:never mind, it's an Amati...
That was my thought--an ABB 621. A close look at the valve caps is the giveaway. One of these days, someone is going to clue Amati about their crappy piston valves...

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AMEN! Had an Amati - pistons drove me nuts. :evil:
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