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Name that tuba
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:53 am
by TheHatTuba
Does anyone know what tuba Charles Daellebach is using in the two VEVO YouTube videos?
Re: Name that tuba
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:16 am
by Kevin Hendrick
TheHatTuba wrote:Does anyone know what tuba Charles Daellebach is using in the two VEVO YouTube videos?
Didn't find 'em -- links would help.
Re: Name that tuba
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:08 am
by tbn.al
Link? Did somebody say link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41kD6TNps-Y" target="_blank
Re: Name that tuba
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:27 am
by Kevin Hendrick
Thank you! The tuba looks very Yamaha-621-ish ... I'd guess either a custom "travel version" (removable bell) YCB-621 or perhaps its Schilke predecessor.
Re: Name that tuba
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:16 pm
by TheHatTuba
Kevin Hendrick wrote:
Thank you! The tuba looks very Yamaha-621-ish ... I'd guess either a custom "travel version" (removable bell) YCB-621 or perhaps its Schilke predecessor.
I though 621, but a slide doesnt look right. it has a ring (easy enough to get) but also its much taller than any of the 621 slides.
Re: Name that tuba
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:34 pm
by imperialbari
This is the CB I saw and heard live in Copenhagen in 1989. I was most impressed by the trumpet players and by David Ohanian.
The gardener taking over the tuba in Pachelbel puzzles me. Recording technique doesn’t call for him to be a tuba player, but he doesn’t look entirely foreign to brass playing. The person he reminds me of is one of the trumpet players in the West Coast (LA?) quintet named The Brass Band (2 trumpets, trombone, euphonium, & tuba). Any ID on him?
Klaus
Re: Name that tuba
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:08 pm
by Kevin Hendrick
TheHatTuba wrote:Kevin Hendrick wrote:
Thank you! The tuba looks very Yamaha-621-ish ... I'd guess either a custom "travel version" (removable bell) YCB-621 or perhaps its Schilke predecessor.
I though 621, but a slide doesnt look right. it has a ring (easy enough to get) but also its much taller than any of the 621 slides.
This may shed a bit more light (or not -- hope it helps!):
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37939&start=12
Re: Name that tuba
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:45 pm
by Steve Inman
At 2:36 in the linked video ("Amazing Grace"), you can clearly study the instrument. The layout of the valves is not at all like the 621, where the 4th valve is placed much closer to the bell than any of the others (based on a google search of 621 images). The bell flair is also significantly wider than the 621 model. In addition, the valve slide with the pull ring is not running in a plane that is parallel with the main bugle wrap, but is rotated at a noticeable angle. None of the 621 slides is oriented this way. Finally, the valve cluster in the linked video is located virtually dead-center in the horn, whereas the 621 cluster is about 60/40.
Whatever it is, it has multiple, significant differences to the 621 CC -- enough differences that I would say it is a different horn altogether.
That's what I can see ....
Cheers,
Re: Name that tuba
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:57 pm
by Kevin Hendrick
Steve Inman wrote:At 2:36 in the linked video ("Amazing Grace"), you can clearly study the instrument. The layout of the valves is not at all like the 621, where the 4th valve is placed much closer to the bell than any of the others (based on a google search of 621 images). The bell flair is also significantly wider than the 621 model. In addition, the valve slide with the pull ring is not running in a plane that is parallel with the main bugle wrap, but is rotated at a noticeable angle. None of the 621 slides is oriented this way. Finally, the valve cluster in the linked video is located virtually dead-center in the horn, whereas the 621 cluster is about 60/40.
Whatever it is, it has multiple, significant differences to the 621 CC -- enough differences that I would say it is a different horn altogether.
That's what I can see ....
Cheers,
That's what made me think it might be the Schilke -- have been looking (without success, so far) for pictures of it.
Re: Name that tuba
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:19 am
by Steve Inman
Bump -- I'm curious -- anyone else have an idea?
Re: Name that tuba
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:34 am
by iiipopes
I keep telling people that I played a tuba like this in undergrad, and nobody believes me! I'm wondering if the two of them were some sort of prototypes or limited runs, but after all these years I have finally seen a picture of the tuba (albeit with a conventional 1-piece bell rather than a detachable) that I played at my undergrad, Drury, in Springfield. Some years ago I borrowed it for a cut on a friend's album, then saw it only one more time when I borrowed an eefer for another concert from the storage closet in the basement. When I checked on it again, I was advised that the basement had flooded, shelving had given way, and a lot of stuff was sent to the dumpster, probably including these two tubas.