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Rusk/York F

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:04 pm
by TheHatTuba
Does anyone know the size rotor bore used on the little Rusk/York F tubas?

Re: Rusk/York F

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:32 pm
by Bob Kolada
The one I've played has a .656 piston bore with the rotary valve right before it (which I believe is the usual setup), so I would be rather surprised to hear that it's something else than .656.
Anyone have a picture of the Getzen F based on them? Was that the G-60?

Re: Rusk/York F

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:15 pm
by bububassboner
I had one as my first F
Bob Kolada wrote:The one I've played has a .656 piston bore with the rotary valve right before it (which I believe is the usual setup), so I would be rather surprised to hear that it's something else than .656.
Anyone have a picture of the Getzen F based on them? Was that the G-60?
Piston were .656 (off a conn 10j maybe) rotor was in the normal ruck place but was smaller than the pistons. Not much but smaller. Yep Getzen also did make an F prototype after these called the G60. Played that one too. Nice horns but the Kanstul get the sound without the bad pitch.

Re: Rusk/York F

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:19 pm
by Tom
Bob Kolada wrote: Anyone have a picture of the Getzen F based on them? Was that the G-60?
Interesting that you mention this.

The only Getzen f tuba (G-60) that I know of ended up owned personally by Dave Fedderly. I saw it once, but didn't play it and don't have any photos or specs.

That was years ago, so I don't know if he still has it or not. Maybe someone doing some other business with him could ask about it. I will not inquire and just waste his time, but am curious to know what came of it as I thought that Getzen had a good thing going with their tuba offerings (owned a CB-50).

Re: Rusk/York F

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:37 pm
by bububassboner
Tom wrote:
Bob Kolada wrote: Anyone have a picture of the Getzen F based on them? Was that the G-60?
Interesting that you mention this.

The only Getzen f tuba (G-60) that I know of ended up owned personally by Dave Fedderly. I saw it once, but didn't play it and don't have any photos or specs.

That was years ago, so I don't know if he still has it or not. Maybe someone doing some other business with him could ask about it. I will not inquire and just waste his time, but am curious to know what came of it as I thought that Getzen had a good thing going with their tuba offerings (owned a CB-50).
Mike Grose owns that horn now. I do not have a picture but imagine a G-50 that was around the size of the small Yamaha F. Same valve block even, just shorter.

Re: Rusk/York F

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:56 am
by Bob Kolada
bububassboner wrote:I had one as my first. Piston were .656 (off a conn 10j maybe) rotor was in the normal ruck place but was smaller than the pistons.
The one I played has a Conn 5J valve set.
bububassboner wrote:Nice horns but the Kanstul get the sound without the bad pitch.
The above one had super intonation. The only note I noticed that was off was 8th partial F which had to be played something like 52. I don't remember about the notes right below but they may have been fine with conventional fingerings.
I do like the Kanstuls; they are a wonderful choice for a new horn. I think the Rusk York F's are more comfortable and to me, at least, there's that strong draw to a vintage horn and the inherent charm.

IMO, those little Yorks are great (had 2 chances to buy super clean stock ones for $400 and $600, sigh...) and the medium, and probably even more so the small, Kings like what I have have a wonderful sound and low register but THESE are the gems (bloke speaks well of the slightly taller small Conn Eb's with the leadpipe before the valves but I've not played one)! Excellent pitch (spot on 5th partial, slightly sharp 6th, everything else is good), good enough low register (better with a larger than stock (.620) valve set?), and a sound that would blow your mind. All the charm of this kind of horn but with a incredibly clear sound. Mine was beat up but I still used it for everything for the few years I had it- brass band, quintet,10-piece, concert band, trombone choir parts when I was in between basses, college audition (played the Ride!),... That horn spoke to me more than any I've owned since. I would absolutely love to find an immaculate one. Pure red-blooded sound.
The moment I most remember when I -really- felt like a musician :lol: was when I was singing on this on the Wells Fargo and Shipoopi songs in the Music Man. Still gives me shivers!!

Re: Rusk/York F

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:22 am
by Mike-ICR
Here are a couple threads from the For Sale section.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=31380&hilit=york+rusk" target="_blank

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=34472&p=303760&hili ... sk#p303760" target="_blank

Re: Rusk/York F

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:16 pm
by cjk
Mike-ICR wrote:Here are a couple threads from the For Sale section.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=31380&hilit=york+rusk" target="_blank" target="_blank

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=34472&p=303760&hili ... sk#p303760" target="_blank" target="_blank
I'm pretty sure that both of those threads are the same horn selling twice!