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Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:16 am
by BopEuph
I'm playing in a pick-up gig on Saturday night, and it's a play-on/play-off. I need to go in there knowing two tunes, Col. Bogey's March and Anchors Aweigh. I am so slammed this week, I won't really have the time to learn the tunes well enough by ear. And I would like to play the bass melody, too.

The gig is on double bass, but I figured if I had the tuba part, that would save me lots of trouble. Anybody have a scan of that? I'm sure I can learn Anchors Aweigh, but if you feel it in your heart to send that to me, too, I won't complain. :wink:

Any help here would be appreciated. This afternoon is the only free time I really have between now and that particular gig.

Nick

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:16 am
by imperialbari
The copyright is from 1914. Took the bass trombone part for easier reading of the octave:

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:15 pm
by J.c. Sherman
Orchestra or Band? The Orchestra "tuba" part is for euphonium.

J.c.S.

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:50 pm
by jamsav
I got it- and will email the tuba ( Basses ) part-just looked at Klaus' post- tuba part down an octave ...
BASSES 9 COLONEL.tif

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:54 pm
by imperialbari
I would have provided the tuba part if the gig had been for tuba.

Klaus

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:16 pm
by BopEuph
Thanks, guys.

It's not an orchestra thing, it's probably the same kind of instrumentation this contractor typically uses for many of these kinds of gigs; three horns and rhythm. The tunes are going to be faked--I don't even know what key they will be in yet. So I'm trying to get as much of the busy work done now as I can so I can just work on the tune itself.

Might anyone have Anchors Aweigh, as well? Just thought I'd ask again. That should be easier to learn by ear, but again, more busy work taking away from actual shedding at the instrument.

Nick

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:20 pm
by imperialbari
I have looked for AA also, but only found references o the Navy fight song, not the march.

Klaus

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:32 pm
by BopEuph
imperialbari wrote:I have looked for AA also, but only found references o the Navy fight song, not the march.

Klaus
Same here. I'm sure these tunes will be discussed when I get there, but I'm thinking, from the roster, I'm the "wet behind the ears" guy, since we're all jazz guys, but I was brought up more in the modern post-bob era, where we don't need to know these tunes usually for such a gig, whereas the rest of these guys probably played both tunes a thousand times. But I found that generation has the better gigs, so I'm trying to work more with those guys.

Nick

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:33 pm
by J.c. Sherman
imperialbari wrote:I would have provided the tuba part if the gig had been for tuba.

Klaus
Meant no insult... just assumed. Where's the tuba forum again? :wink:

J.c.S.

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:53 pm
by imperialbari
There is a tuba angle to this.

First the OP apparently plays string bass (upright or guitar, don’t know and it doesn’t matter) as well as tuba. A very common doubling. Hence I saw no problem in being helpful. Octave juggling is the smallest art within transposition. But only if the part is easily read.

And there the tuba contents arrive. I don’t like ledger lines due to double vision. Beyond 3 and I get real problems knowing where I am. All other contrabass instruments use the octave up bass clef (up and down are relative terms; I refer to the writing). It is so immensely much easier to read notes within or near a staff. As the Alford edition has no string bass part, I took the one looking most alike to the bass part one would imagine from the tuba part. And that happened to be the bass trombone part.

Some may find the British brass band tradition of writing all instruments but for bass trombone in transposed treble clef a bit odd. But as I see it, the placement of the musical lines relative to the staff display the most efficient notation for contrabass tuba.

Klaus

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:39 pm
by BopEuph
imperialbari wrote:There is a tuba angle to this.

First the OP apparently plays string bass (upright or guitar, don’t know and it doesn’t matter) as well as tuba. A very common doubling. Hence I saw no problem in being helpful. Octave juggling is the smallest art within transposition. But only if the part is easily read.
Actually, I play both (though upright is what the gig calls for) and I'm still just learning tuba (originally a eupher). The octave doubling won't be so much a problem, but like you said, it's much easier to read in the octave meant for the instrument. I do appreciate both copies; I did consider bringing my tuba and playing it on that, but my chops aren't at a level I'd want to attempt to play with seasoned pros, playing in front of 2,500 people on stage.

Nick

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:45 pm
by J.c. Sherman
I'm easily confused ;-)

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:30 pm
by BopEuph
I just found a lead sheet to AA in one of my 70 different fake books. Incidentally, the fake book entitled "The Best Fake Book Ever." I looked through my books before, but I guess I just missed it in this one. Oh well, I got it now. Thanks for the help.

Nick

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:48 am
by Biggs
BopEuph wrote:but I was brought up more in the modern post-bob era
Would that be from 1063 onward?

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:02 am
by BopEuph
Oh crap. So, which Bob are we talking about?

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:36 am
by BopEuph
Oh, got it. Been a while since I've been on TubeNet. Nice catch, by the way.

Nick

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:03 am
by imperialbari
For the tubists wanting a look:

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:31 pm
by Biggs
BopEuph wrote:Oh, got it. Been a while since I've been on TubeNet. Nice catch, by the way.

Nick
No sweat, I'm sure everyone (including me) knew exactly what you intended. I just can't pass up a good Bob reference.

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:53 pm
by David Richoux
Anchors Away seems to be under some sort of copyright - it certainly is not PD (as some other service songs are.)

You can buy digital downloads of piano scores (chorus only, mostly) at places like this but I did find a free arrangement (possibly in the wrong key) here. You will have to pick out the bass line... and I don't agree with his lyric choices ;-)

Re: Col. Bogey's March

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:08 pm
by BopEuph
Thanks. The lead sheet I have is in C. I will probably put Nashville notation over it so it will be workable in any key. And since it will be my first time reading Nashville notation, we'll see how my reading chops REALLY work.

Nick