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Drop to AA+ bond rating

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:35 am
by Brown Mule
Will the drop to AA+ cause price of imported Tubas to go North???? :roll: :roll: :roll: :?:

Re: Drop to AA+ bond rating

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:26 am
by sousaphone68
The drop in rating resulted in following in Ireland.
1 any banks that had bankrolled property developers or had over sold tracker mortgages are now in state ownership and small business have no access to credit.
2 the public stopped spending while they awaited what tax increases that had to come following the property crash
3 the lack of spending coupled with lack of access to credit has closed many retail outlets both large and small.
4 Prices dropped in the short term as retainers tried to tempt shoppers back
5 luxury brands and lifestyle shops are suffering
6 specialist music shops have closed

Eventually the government called in the IMF and we now face fiscal adjustments to the countries spending of around 15 billion euros over 3 years.
We are 2 years into the corrections and things are getting tight extra taxes on salary and lots of stealth taxes and loss of many health and social programs.
So all I can say is hold on tight as it is all only beginning and if your regulators were asleep like Irelands were then get ready for some shocks

Re: Drop to AA+ bond rating

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:09 am
by bort
Brown Mule wrote:...go North???? :roll: :roll: :roll: :?:
I'll move to Canada, great idea! :P

Re: Drop to AA+ bond rating

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:29 am
by awaters
At our firm we manage money from an global viewpoint (specialists in Gold And Platinum Group Metals and Rare earths) http://www.waterscapital.com" target="_blank" target="_blank. Given that Europe is much worse off than we are, we would expect the euro to decline deeply over the next 12-18 months. As a tubaist, i'd love for prices to decline steeply but i expect prices to decrease 7-10% due to lessening demand.

Re: Drop to AA+ bond rating

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:28 am
by jamsav
bloke wrote:AA is a very low note, and rarely written. It may respond better with a gold plated tuba.

at $1700 per oz., a very expensive proposition...

Re: Drop to AA+ bond rating

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:30 pm
by Mark
bort wrote:I'll move to Canada, great idea! :P
I recommend Vancouver. It's a beautiful city with a great orchestra. And it's close to Seattle for shopping and healthcare. :wink:

Re: Drop to AA+ bond rating

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:12 pm
by bort
Or, maybe I could un-immigrate and go back to Germany where my relatives (and my wife's) came from 100+ years ago. :P

Re: Drop to AA+ bond rating

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:51 am
by SousaSaver
bloke wrote:AA is a very low note, and rarely written. It may respond better with a gold plated tuba.
THANK YOU!

Re: Drop to AA+ bond rating

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:57 pm
by tubaforce
DP wrote:sigh...

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Dale, I haven't met you, but saw one of your axes at Oberloh's shop recently! I just want to thank you for the lovely Beer Garden Maiden...or whatever it is the Chinese call 'em!
Al

Re: Drop to AA+ bond rating

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:55 pm
by bort
bloke wrote:
bort wrote:Or, maybe I could un-immigrate and go back to Germany where my relatives (and my wife's) came from 100+ years ago. :P
' doubt if they would welcome you back, unless you had a bunch of money in tow (real money, not US$'s or €'s).
Haha, yeah, no news there, I've known that for a long time already. Guess I could still move to Texas though! :P

Re: Drop to AA+ bond rating

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:58 pm
by UTSAtuba
bort wrote:
bloke wrote:
bort wrote:Or, maybe I could un-immigrate and go back to Germany where my relatives (and my wife's) came from 100+ years ago. :P
' doubt if they would welcome you back, unless you had a bunch of money in tow (real money, not US$'s or €'s).
Haha, yeah, no news there, I've known that for a long time already. Guess I could still move to Texas though! :P
And we'll welcome you with open arms. If you can bear with 100+ heat, you'll make it!

Re: Drop to AA+ bond rating

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:17 pm
by Brown Mule
bloke wrote:AA is a very low note, and rarely written. It may respond better with a gold plated tuba.
Does AA+ mean a very low note that is sharp?? or-----------a graduate degree in Acoholics Anonymous????? :idea: :roll: :tuba: