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Maybe this has been presented on TN before, but I only just got the link from a contrabass context:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9t2qrL9Q7I

imperialbari wrote:...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9t2qrL9Q7I...

Thanks for sharing. One excellent example of how disgusting the contra bone really is, but for sure it is a lot of fun to play. The guy plays very good, fantastic for just having acces to the instrument for a couple of days.

I think it is a good sound. I am waiting with interest to see how is the JinBao contrabass trombone as I have one on order for a customer.

Neptune wrote:...I think it is a good sound...

Yes Jonathan, you are correct. He plays with a remarkably good sound. However, just think of it, a whole concert with sonatas for contra bone solo or with piano...

As seen in the comment to the video he plays a HAAG instrument which has a very good reputation. Personally I prefer the Lätzsch which I think has a slightly lighter sound. It would be very interesting to hear more about the JB which is a copy of one of the Thein instruments that in itself is very good. I am a bit sceptical to the JB valves though, both as I prefer the function and sound of traditional roataries and that these Hagman copies may not be the easiest to have working correctly. Please let us know more when the thing arrives.

I played the Thein copy at the Midwest conference and really liked it. My Kanstul seemed to sound similar to the Haag; the copy is a much lighter, almost F bass tromboneish, instrument. I actually prefer that sound. The Kanstul was a bit much in the middle for me- big badass monster trombone is cool, light F bass is cool, but I don't really like the middle. The copy also had tight valves and really popped in the low range. They were pretty slow though it seemed it was "right out of the box". Dillon's is selling them now. Anyone played one of those?

I've had an idea floating around in my head to itch my low bass trombone itch- pick up an independent bass trombone (or an indy bell section to go with my slide) lengthen the gooseneck, stretch out the bell, and lengthen the valve tubing= modern bore low G bass! That'd absolutely rock on English stuff with modern tenors and tubas, big low range stuff like Prokofiev,... I also like the idea of a Bb/F(/dependent D)/Eb. The dependent valve would probably be on the upper thumb unless anyone has any better ideas. You could fly in the low range and still have a slide trombone sound.

There's another video on youtube of a different guy playing a solo on a Haag. He bought my Kanstul a month or so ago. I liked the horn but wasn't playing it nearly as much as I had planned. Big trombones are also really starting to mess with my left elbow. I've got J.c. Sheman building me an Eb valved bass so I'll still have something vaguely low trombonish. It'll actually be rather similar proportionately to the Theins- .562 slide (valves on mine), 10" bell, thinner cylindrical tubing before the bell than the bigger contras. J.c. built up a pretty rocking F slide contra out of similar parts- .562 bass handslide, .562 valves, and a G baritone bell. I think he's also putting together an F/D bass.