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Hello folks ......

I want to buy an arrangement of La Peri that has parts for all of the brass sections of a concert band.

Anyone know ......... ?

Thanks for this Joe. I have seen at leat one other arrangement for brass choir but it did not list the instrumentation. The one you gave me didn't either. What is the instrumentation of a brass choir ?

This is not the exact answer but it might help...

There is a version available on IMSLP...

http://imslp.org/wiki/Fanfare_pour_pr%C ... s,_Paul%29

3 tpts, 4 horns, 3 trombones, 1 tuba.

Yeah .... you need euphonium to fill it in ....... Thanks for the quintet version but it's still not what I am looking for .

Don't know if this will be of any help. But... our brass band is doing this one:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16379785/Fanf ... Brass-Band

Dude ......
1.) The trombone parts are in tenor clef
2.) The trumpet parts are in "C" not Bb
3.) No parts written specifically for the euphonium.

I don't want to spend time transposeing those parts because I know only 2 of the five trombone players know how to read tenor and probably none of the trumpet players can play C parts. As far as the no euphonium parts issue the only options left with that arrangement is have them double on the 3rd trombone part or transpose one of the F horns parts or a little of both. All of which would sound like ****.
I know there is an arrangement out there that is eaxctly what I am looking for because I saw it online somewhere about 3 years ago. I just don't remember where. I thought someone here would be able to help me out.

Again not what you're looking for but this would be an easy last minute substitution.

This band arrangement just copies and pastes the brass parts in there and doubles with woodwinds, the only arrangement is on page 9 (where the trumpets would have to copy from the clarinets(no sweat).

The score with the parts parts, but the score alone is relatively cheap and almost what you want...

http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/La-Peri/7802473#

My favorite part of this is standing out in the cold for an hour not playing, and humming that high Ab in my head so I don't chip the first note.

bloke wrote:
wow...

There are computer programs (I'd bet someone in your band owns a copy) that scans music, saves it, and can transpose it at the touch of a button.
Look at the tuba part. Do you think (maybe...??) most of that could be doubled by the baritone horn, or should someone email Mr. Dukas and ask him to write a separate part in the bass clef for the baritone horn that doesn't change any of the harmonic structure?)

Actually somebody has already written it out and is giving the score away for free. This is the same score as TubaTinker linked earlier.

(Needs a free plugin to view)
http://www.scoreexchange.com/scores/47162.html

Also, Dukas isn't composing anymore, he's decomposing...

*Couldn't resist the easy pun...

bloke wrote:

MartyNeilan wrote:My favorite part of this is standing out in the cold for an hour not playing, and humming that high Ab in my head so I don't chip the first note.

Every tuba player has their own coping mechanisms when it comes to pulling high-range pitches out of their butt. Mine (with stuff like this) is to continuously remind myself that ALL of that mess is AROUND OR BELOW middle c.

One wonders though... What kind of Tuba did Dukas have in mind? (possibly a French C tuba...)

oldbandnerd wrote:Dude ......
1.) The trombone parts are in tenor clef
2.) The trumpet parts are in "C" not Bb
3.) No parts written specifically for the euphonium.

It's not that complicated a work, either in complexity or length. You could double the euph with the horns, especially given that trumpets, trombones, and tubas will be in much larger forces than the original work. The tone color won't be right, but if your euph players are decent you can keep it in the same octave. And, depending on the tuba players in your band, the tuba part may be a little high--it starts on a high Ab. If that's too high, you could split the tuba part with the euphs. That would be a better compromise than dropping the tuba an octave, which would undermine the sound of the piece.

With software these days, transcribing the parts into an easier clef just isn't that hard. It only took me an evening to arrange the work for tuba quartet, including writing out the parts by hand. And I'm absolutely no good at that.

Rick "who needs to dig up his quintet arrangement for reading, come to think of it" Denney

bloke wrote:... There are computer programs (I'd bet someone in your band owns a copy) that scans music, saves it, and can transpose it at the touch of a button. ...

Joe... I have the latest edition of Finale. Yes, it does have the capability of scanning existing sheet music and uses a character recognition piece of 3rd party software to create a Finale file. It's not a perfect technology. IF all went well, it would be a piece of cake. However... having to do all the edits that's usually required... especially on pieces with lots of meter and key changes... often takes more time than entering the data manually.

That being said.... it still doesn't take all that long to enter a part and then do the transposition.

TubaTinker wrote:That being said.... it still doesn't take all that long to enter a part and then do the transposition.

Especially for something as short as the Fanfare from La Peri. It's less than 90 seconds of fairly slow and uncomplicated music. I could write a new trombone part out by hand, transposing as I went, in a few minutes. Ditto for a euph part that includes the high stuff in the tuba part and the exposed stuff in the horn part. And I repeat that I absolutely suck at stuff like that.

Rick "who'd need more time to install and learn the software" Denney

bloke wrote:Character recognition is more or less successful depending on the quality of the characters that are supposed to be recognized. The characters on those downloads looked very recognizable indeed.

That's only part of the problem, Joe. All it takes is one rest that isn't recognized for one reason or the other to screw up everything after it. There are lots of miss-interpretations of key signatures and meter changes. Also... the recognition does not interpret dynamics, slurs, and such. In short... the scanning capabilities of these programs just suck.

I bought Finale more-or-less for the scanning feature. I found out very quickly that is on about the same par as the 'Dragon' voice recognition software of 15 years ago. I suspect that it still sucks, too!

I just opened one of those PDFs with the new version of photoscore lite that comes with Sibelius 7. All the pitches and rhythms are there. If I had the pro version, I am sure that most of the accidental and articulations would have followed.

I could probably prepare parts in approximately 20 min per page... YMMV....

Thanks for everyones help in this. I got what I was looking for. It was the arrangemet by Geoff Colmer that I had stuck in my mind. It will work for my band.

As for pissing around with music editor software and the like and trying to take make an arrangement work ..... if I had the time, the software and desire to do so I would not have bothered to post here asking for a very specific instrumentation. Hell, I might have taken a crack at arranging it myself. I took 2 years of high school music theory,afterall ..... 29 years ago. It should still be fresh in my mind.
I don't know who in my band has what software and really doubt anyone has a full scale version of Sibelius or Finale. It's just a community band full of amature musicians.
A lot of assumptions were made in this thread that just had me shaking my head.
- Someone would have the software. How do you know?
- That someone would be willing to do all this work for me. Rick said it took him a night to do his. How do you know I could get
the person with the software to give up their precious time to do this for me?
- It's easy to do with the right software. Doesn't seem to be that way.
- I could borrow the software, install it on my computer and do it myself. I have that kind of time. No,No.No and HELL no.
- The euphs can just play bits and pieces of other instruments ,it will sound great. I don't think so.

oldbandnerd wrote:Rick said it took him a night to do his. How do you know I could get
the person with the software to give up their precious time to do this for me?

What I said was that I wrote a tuba quartet arrangement of this work in one evening. I wrote out the parts for it by hand, including making transpositions from the original parts (from treble clef to bass clef, etc.), plus the decisions about how to assign the original lines to the quartet instrumentation. No computer involved. And I didn't even have two years of high-school music theory. I was making no assumptions, and in particular not making the assumption that it was too hard to do quickly.

Rick "glad it worked out" Denney