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Re: EEb as do-it-all horn?

Postby TMurphy » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:23 pm

I have owned a 983 as my only horn for close to 10 years now. I got it when I was in college because it just "fit" me perfectly; it allows me to get closer to what's in my head than just about anything else I've played. Wouldn't trade it for anything.

If I had the money, would I get a contrabass to go with it? Sure, but it's certainly not a necessity.
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Re: EEb as do-it-all horn?

Postby Mojo workin' » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:37 pm

Doc, you mentioned a small BBb as a possible all around horn. Any suggestions on models?

Only one that comes to mind is a Cerveny piggy.
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Re: EEb as do-it-all horn?

Postby bloke » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:49 pm



All I was saying was, "Yes. Indeed he owned one of those tubas."
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Re: EEb as do-it-all horn?

Postby TheHatTuba » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:22 pm

Mojo workin' wrote:Doc, you mentioned a small BBb as a possible all around horn. Any suggestions on models?

Only one that comes to mind is a Cerveny piggy.


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Re: EEb as do-it-all horn?

Postby TheHatTuba » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:25 pm

For specific Eb's I vote the Norwegian Star. The Besson's don't play the way I prefer, but some people really like and do great with them.
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Re: EEb as do-it-all horn?

Postby Doc » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:18 pm

Mojo workin' wrote:Doc, you mentioned a small BBb as a possible all around horn. Any suggestions on models?

Only one that comes to mind is a Cerveny piggy.


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Re: EEb as do-it-all horn?

Postby GC » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:20 am

@bloke: the y'all tube video doesn't have the best of sound, but the original soundtrack recording is pretty clear there. I really don't think he used a bass tuba for the Jawas solo; the sound's just too dark and thick.
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Re: EEb as do-it-all horn?

Postby EdFirth » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:38 am

Harvey Phillips did everything on a smaller Conn C which is very like the Conn 3J. The Bb is a 5J and is still in production. Ed
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Re: EEb as do-it-all horn?

Postby Doc » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:02 am

EdFirth wrote:Harvey Phillips did everything on a smaller Conn C which is very like the Conn 3J. The Bb is a 5J and is still in production. Ed


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Re: EEb as do-it-all horn?

Postby bort » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:18 am

TheHatTuba wrote:
Mojo workin' wrote:Doc, you mentioned a small BBb as a possible all around horn. Any suggestions on models?

Only one that comes to mind is a Cerveny piggy.


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Re: EEb as do-it-all horn?

Postby Michael Grant » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:38 am

Like many have said before me on this post, the EEb works fine as an only horn. I agree that for the big stuff (large orchestra and large orchestral works, etc.) a contra-bass is needed (CC or BBb) but I don't play in anything that would require something that large. I use the Willson 3400 EEb. It works well for everything I play in or would ever play. I don't agree with an earlier post that the Norwegian Star would work as the only EEb horn. I spent a couple of hours with one really putting it through the paces and in my opinion, it does not have the balz that the Willson has. When I really wanted to let loose, it couldn't handle it. I've heard and read that the MW 2141 is a good option as well as the Perrantucci EEb. I have not played any of those.

Now, with all that said, I also think the same thing could be accomplished with the Rudy Meinl 3/4 CC. Before all the EEb development, that was "the" all around tuba. So much so that I have considered on many occasions trading my Willson for a 3/4 Rudy (I prefer rotary valves - especially the older I get and the less I play). The one thing that has stopped me from taking the plunge is the sound and response on my Willson. It just sounds great! I'm sure age will finally make that decision for me.

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Re: EEb as do-it-all horn?

Postby PhilGreen » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:53 am

I had a 2 month trial with both the Starlight and Norwegian Star and agree with Michael that I didn't think that either had the low down power that I needed/wanted/was used to. The 2040/5 that eventually chose did have this in spades, although I now understand through this forum that it's not a very popular choice.
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