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Shocking Revelation

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:34 pm
by Mark
I know some of you will not like to read this. The photos of tubas on some CD/Album covers are not always photos of the tuba that was actually used to make the recording.

I just thought someone had to reveal the truth.

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:36 pm
by TubaRay
Well, I'm daft!

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:39 pm
by Chen
Such as?

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:23 pm
by David Richoux
After about 30 years as a radio DJ, I am not surprised by any lack of truthyness on an album cover. I am also not surprised by how little really useful information has actually been included in most liner notes (even if it is a booklet with 48 pages!)

And if it did have any useful information it would be printed in amazingly tiny type, usually white on black (or worse) and buried deep within the CD packet or upside-down on a LP liner sleeve...

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:22 pm
by Chen
David Richoux wrote:After about 30 years as a radio DJ, I am not surprised by any lack of truthyness on an album cover. I am also not surprised by how little really useful information has actually been included in most liner notes (even if it is a booklet with 48 pages!)

And if it did have any useful information it would be printed in amazingly tiny type, usually white on black (or worse) and buried deep within the CD packet or upside-down on a LP liner sleeve...
But why? Is it useful but unimportant?

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:14 pm
by Dan Schultz
I'm shocked!

Take a look at the menu board at McDonalds. Those pictures aren't real, either! In fact... those pictures aren't even of real food.

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:23 am
by iiipopes
Yeah, what's new. It's been that way with girls and guitars on album covers for, well, decades.

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:49 am
by bort
Cover art? Liner notes? What are those? :?

You mean there's more than just a file name on my iPod?

(But really, I think it stinks that you don't get liner notes when you download an album online!)

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:09 am
by PMeuph
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Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:53 pm
by Mark
David Richoux wrote:After about 30 years as a radio DJ, I am not surprised by any lack of truthyness on an album cover. I am also not surprised by how little really useful information has actually been included in most liner notes (even if it is a booklet with 48 pages!)

And if it did have any useful information it would be printed in amazingly tiny type, usually white on black (or worse) and buried deep within the CD packet or upside-down on a LP liner sleeve...
And in several languages I don't read.

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:56 pm
by Mark
DP wrote:meh...so what?
Well, if the tuba on the cover is not the tuba used on the recording, how do we know that the name of the tuba player is actually the player who performed on the recording?

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:12 pm
by chronolith
:D

"Girl you know it's...(skip)...Girl you know it's...(skip)...Girl you know it's...(skip)...Girl you know it's...(skip)...Girl you know it's...(skip)..."

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:24 pm
by Mark
chronolith wrote::D

"Girl you know it's...(skip)...Girl you know it's...(skip)...Girl you know it's...(skip)...Girl you know it's...(skip)...Girl you know it's...(skip)..."
Music's Top 5 Lip-Sync Scandals

He may have his lips on the mouthpiece; but how do we know he is blowing.

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:12 pm
by David Richoux
DP wrote:
Chen wrote:Such as?
David Richoux wrote:After about 30 years as a radio DJ, I am not surprised by any lack of truthyness on an album cover. I am also not surprised by how little really useful information has actually been included in most liner notes (even if it is a booklet with 48 pages!) And if it did have any useful information it would be printed in amazingly tiny type, usually white on black (or worse) and buried deep within the CD packet or upside-down on a LP liner sleeve...
Chen wrote:But why? Is it useful but unimportant?
Just basic things like when and where the recording was done, musicians (especially major sidemen and soloists that might be backing up the "star,")
songwriters, stuff like that. LPs from the 1950s and 1960s were usually much worse for this sort of thing, but it still is a problem.
I know some of that info might now be available on The Internets, but when I started doing a jazz show on KFJC it was still pretty much DARPANET :shock:

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:51 pm
by Dan Schultz
Mark wrote:
DP wrote:meh...so what?
Well, if the tuba on the cover is not the tuba used on the recording, how do we know that the name of the tuba player is actually the player who performed on the recording?
I know of one incident where Leon Redbone deliberately used the wrong name for a tubist on the disc insert.

Re: Shocking Revelation

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:36 pm
by iiipopes
iiipopes wrote:Yeah, what's new. It's been that way with girls and guitars on album covers for, well, decades.
bort wrote:Cover art? Liner notes? What are those? :?
You mean there's more than just a file name on my iPod?
(But really, I think it stinks that you don't get liner notes when you download an album online!)
OK, I'm showing my age. I'll also still call them "records" instead of CD's; "singles" instead of MP3's, etc.