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Euphonium Mouthpiece Recommendations
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:25 pm
by kprinz
I have a High School Euphonium Student that came to me recently. He is playing on a Bach 1 1/2 G. My question is for Euphonium players/teachers out there. Is this a reasonable mouthpiece for a Euphonium player to play on. I've always known this mouthpiece as a Bass Trombone MP and to me it doesn't seem like a good fit for Euphonium, but I'm a tuba player what do I know. My standby MP for Euphonium is a Shilke 51D. Do you guys have any suggestions for mouthpieces that this kid should check out.
Re: Euphonium Mouthpiece Recommendations
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:46 pm
by Elbee
I would think something along the line of a Bach 4G or even a 61/2AL would be more to his liking. How does he do with the 1 1/2 ? That's a mighty big 'piece!
Loren
Re: Euphonium Mouthpiece Recommendations
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:09 pm
by Bob Kolada
I don't play either mp anymore and therefore have neither at hand; but how different are the overall cup volumes? A 1.5G isn't exactly a bucket.
That said, unless he has a specific reason for playing the 1.5G (small school and has to cover tuba parts,...) he'd probably be better off with a more tenor sized mp if for no other reason than those annoying high parts euph always seems to get in band.

Re: Euphonium Mouthpiece Recommendations
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:47 pm
by Rick F
I think a 1-1/2 G is pretty big for euphonium... unless his main instrument is tuba and he's doubling. I would think that mpc would tend to make his tone sound a bit too 'tubby'. Schilke 51D is good... but if he's been playing on the 1-1/2 for awhile, he might be better off trying a Wick 4AL or SM-4 (or 3) Ultra (Steve Mead). I like Doug Elliott mpcs, but for a HS student that might be too much of an investment.
Re: Euphonium Mouthpiece Recommendations
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:20 pm
by PMeuph
kprinz wrote:I have a High School Euphonium Student that came to me recently. He is playing on a Bach 1 1/2 G. My question is for Euphonium players/teachers out there. Is this a reasonable mouthpiece for a Euphonium player to play on. I've always known this mouthpiece as a Bass Trombone MP and to me it doesn't seem like a good fit for Euphonium, but I'm a tuba player what do I know. My standby MP for Euphonium is a Shilke 51D. Do you guys have any suggestions for mouthpieces that this kid should check out.
How does it work for him? Does he have a high range? How is his tone?
If he likes it, sounds good and has a good high range (ie. a high Bb) or is covering Bass-trombone parts in a jazz band then that might be a could mouthpiece for him.
Personally, I played on a Bach 5 for a while, and I really enjoyed the Schilke 52E2. I think a Schilke 51 or a Bach 5 are fine mouthpieces for a High school student.
Re: Euphonium Mouthpiece Recommendations
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:55 pm
by tclements
The 'standard' that is used pretty universally is the 51D. As a tubist, this feels a bit small for me. One piece of information I would need before making a competent recommendation is, what kind of instrument is he/she playing? This is what I would suggest:
"American" (small or medium shank) euphonium - Bach 6 1/2 AL or equivelent
Yamaha 321 (or similar) - Bach 3, 4 or 5 OR it's Doug Elliott equivelent. 6 1/2 AL for a younger student
B&H/Boosey w/European Shank - Schilke 51D-type, or something slightly larger OR Wick 4L-type
LARGE comp euph - 3G, 4G, 5GS
DISCLAIMER: this is just a rough suggestion. I would need to see & hear the musician to make a better, more comprehensive recommendation. But this is a good place to start.
GENERALLY, the 1 1/2G is WAY to big for most euph players....
Re: Euphonium Mouthpiece Recommendations
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:24 pm
by Teubonium
tclements wrote:The 'standard' that is used pretty universally is the 51D. As a tubist, this feels a bit small for me. One piece of information I would need before making a competent recommendation is, what kind of instrument is he/she playing? This is what I would suggest:
"American" (small or medium shank) euphonium - Bach 6 1/2 AL or equivelent
Yamaha 321 (or similar) - Bach 3, 4 or 5 OR it's Doug Elliott equivelent. 6 1/2 AL for a younger student
B&H/Boosey w/European Shank - Schilke 51D-type, or something slightly larger OR Wick 4L-type
LARGE comp euph - 3G, 4G, 5GS
DISCLAIMER: this is just a rough suggestion. I would need to see & hear the musician to make a better, more comprehensive recommendation. But this is a good place to start.
GENERALLY, the 1 1/2G is WAY to big for most euph players....
+1
I used a 6 1/2 AL on my old American bariphonium.
I now use a Bach 4G on my Besson 967.
