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What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:32 pm
by TheHatTuba
To me, the sound is Jim Self on his YFB-822. What is your definition of the jazz tuba sound/player?

Re: What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:39 pm
by Z-Tuba Dude
You can't go too far wrong with Sam Pilafian, and Travelin' Light!

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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:35 pm
by Art Hovey
Rich Matteson with Louis Armstrong and the Dukes.

Re: What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:39 pm
by The Big Ben
I like Howard Johnson.

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:09 am
by SousaWarrior9
Nat McIntosh
Howard Johnson
Dave Bargeron

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:49 am
by David Richoux
I have quite a few - but it does depend on what kind of jazz!

(Just listing those who are still performing and have significant recordings.)

For Trad/Dixie/Whatever you call it: I would have to pick Eli Newberger out of a dozen top contenders including Jim Self and Sam Pilafian. Just a personal taste in solo/ensemble style...

For Mainstream/Bop: a tie between Howard Johnson and Bob Stewart.

New Orleans Hot Brass: Kirk Joseph and both Matt Perrine / Nat McIntosh (who also fit into the alt.jazz side.)

Alt.Jazz/Progressive/Loft/etc.: Marcus Rojas

Jazz Fusion: Dave Bargeron
Blues-Jazz: Jon Sass
Soul-Groove: L.T. Cohran (Hypnotic Ensemble)

Re: What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:45 am
by tubacrow
Everyone listed above are great jazz tubist, but we should not forget people like Ray Draper. He played with Coltrane, Roach, and Dr. John to name a few.

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:38 am
by averagejoe
I'll second David Richoux on Dave Bargeron.

Re: What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:53 am
by tuba-tobias
Another question impossible to discuss without more specifics.
What is a jazz tuba player?
Is it enough to be a classical schooled tubist who plays written charts/arrangements or do one have to be able to improvise bass- and melody-lines?
I have played with the norwegian saxophoneplayer Jan Garbarek and the Norwegian Broadcasting Big Band on occasions. Does that make me a jazz tuba player?
I don't think so.

Re: What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:28 am
by Karl H.
A second for Rich Matteson, who was an even more amazing on euphonium and valve bone, and a beloved teacher of improvisation...

If you can find this album, buy it:

http://www.discogs.com/Phil-Wilson-Rich ... se/2831040" target="_blank

Karl "a proud UNT grad" H.

Re: What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:36 am
by tclements
One name I haven't seen: Stefan Kac.

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:44 am
by graybach
Joe Murphy

Re: What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:53 pm
by David Richoux
tuba-tobias wrote:Another question impossible to discuss without more specifics.
What is a jazz tuba player?
Is it enough to be a classical schooled tubist who plays written charts/arrangements or do one have to be able to improvise bass- and melody-lines?
I have played with the norwegian saxophoneplayer Jan Garbarek and the Norwegian Broadcasting Big Band on occasions. Does that make me a jazz tuba player?
I don't think so.
Being able to read charts is sometimes important for jazz tuba players, but the ability to creatively, consistently, and quickly improvise from a very simple thread of chords, riffs, (or even nothing at all) and make an interesting musical low voice to the composition is most of it, in my opinion.
Solos are quite another issue - I don't take them as much as I should - I feel a bit more comfortable in a "major supporting role." However, when I hear the artists I lived above on solos, well, that is why they are stars!

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:04 pm
by SousaSaver
The Big Ben wrote:I like Howard Johnson.
+1

I like Howard Johnson because he can go from a more traditional jazz sound to really wild fusion type stuff. It's both beautiful and nasty...but in a good way.

Re: What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:24 pm
by UDELBR
Yep. Howard's the real deal.

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:24 pm
by EdFirth
I'll add my votes for Howard Johnson and Matt Perrine.And I'd like to add Dave Gannett and John Allred. Most of you probably have heard of Dave, and I was suprised to not see his name pop up, John played on the Harry Connick band on trombone, which he IS well known for, and tuba. He also was in the band with Rich Matteson and Harvey on baritone. The guy truly does it all, GREAT! Ed

Re: What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:07 pm
by David Richoux
EdFirth wrote:I'll add my votes for Howard Johnson and Matt Perrine.And I'd like to add Dave Gannett and John Allred.
Dave was in my top dozen in the traditional-ish side of jazz. Howard Miyata is another great trombone/tubist - maybe if he hadn't been playing on bone with Earl McKee (Sousaphone and vocals in the High Sierra JB) for so long he would be better known for his tuba performance.

Re: What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:15 pm
by tubasong
No disrespect, but Draper? He swings like a brick. I'm listening to The Ray Draper Quintet, New Jazz 8228, featuring Coltrane right now. My theory is that Coltrane owed him a huge favor... Huge!!

Two gentlemen who play great lines and solo quite nicely:
Art Hovey (Galvanized Jazz) & Joshua Cutchins, (1/2 Dozen Brass Band)

Re: What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:52 am
by tubacrow
No worries. to each their own.

Re: What is THE jazz tuba/player to you?

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:44 am
by tubajazzo
Marty Erickson. I was lucky enough to meet him personally and learn from him during classes in Hammelburg, Germany.