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What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:04 am
by Tubadork
Hey,
a friend and I were talking about this and we could only come up with NYP with Sinopoli.
Any others?
Plenty of tuba players talk about manning up and playing it, but it seems like there are not too many recordings of pros playing it.
Bill
FYI, I'm in the play it on Euph myself or pass it along camp, I just don't see a good reason to do it.
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:22 am
by GC
Jacobs with Chicago under Reiner?
Torchinsky with Philadelphia under Ormandy?
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:26 am
by Tubadork
Hey,
I've heard the tale of the Jacobs Reiner, but the one that I know, it's not Jacobs.
What year is the Ormandy, or do you have an Amazon link?
Thanks,
Bill
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:29 am
by GC
The Ormandy is old vinyl, and I don't think the link to this will be up for too long for obvious reasons:
http://www.amazon.com/Mussorgsky-Pictur ... 52&sr=8-40
It's included in this CD release:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Jacket-C ... B0018TNJL4
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:48 am
by Alex C
I thought Dee Stewart played all of the Bydlo solos for Philadelphia. I can't remember hearing about a Torchinsky performance.
I believe there are at least two recorded performances by Jacobs of Bydlo, the 1957 recording with Reiner and the recording with Ozawa conducting. That's just from memory, someone else (Brian?) will have to verify that.
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:54 am
by bisontuba
Hi-
Jacobs played F tuba on Bydlo on the Kubelik and Ozawa recordings....
Mark
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:33 pm
by ppalan
Alessandro Fossi and Orchestra Filarmonica della Scala:
http://youtu.be/rx6Eo6liyCg
Edit: I thought someone told me this performance was also recorded for sale but I'm not certain.
Pete
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:29 pm
by GC
#AlexC: thanks.
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:32 pm
by Kory101
Though not a tuba performance, this is my favourite recording of this solo:
http://download.tso.ca/app?page=Product ... XV3MN03WO8
It's played by Gordon Wolfe, Principal Trombone of the Toronto Symphony.
-Kory
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:00 pm
by brianf
On the Kubelik recording, Jacobs played it on the BB flat side of a BB flat/ F tuba
On the Ozawa recording he played it on a Yamaha Euphonium
Bob Lambert played it on the Reiner recording
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:16 pm
by bisontuba
Brian-
I stand corrected-thanks!
Mark
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:10 pm
by swillafew
LA had one in the 70's that sounded like Mr. Bobo playing an F, in spectacular fashion.
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:59 pm
by Norm Pearson
swillafew wrote:LA had one in the 70's that sounded like Mr. Bobo playing an F, in spectacular fashion.
Mr. Bobo did play the solo but he played his Alexander tenor tuba.
Norm
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:49 am
by tbn.al
What is the sense of a percentage of tuba use in professional orchestra performances, live or recorded. I would think from the comments that it must be on the low side with some sort of tenor instument getting the higher useage. Would anyone hazard a guess, maybe 20% of the time on tuba of any key? What do you think?
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:04 pm
by bentuba7
Minnesota under Eiji Oue. Phenomenal recording
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:29 pm
by Rick Denney
tbn.al wrote:What is the sense of a percentage of tuba use in professional orchestra performances, live or recorded. I would think from the comments that it must be on the low side with some sort of tenor instument getting the higher useage. Would anyone hazard a guess, maybe 20% of the time on tuba of any key? What do you think?
100% of the times I've heard it performed by a live, professional orchestra, it was performed on F tuba.
Perfection was, um, not always attained.
Rick "who thinks a euphonium or tenor tuba is the
correct instrument, in comparison to the instrument used in France at the time" Denney
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:52 pm
by UDELBR
Rick Denney wrote: a euphonium or tenor tuba is the correct instrument, in comparison to the instrument used in France at the time
Not a whole lotta difference between euphonium and French tuba, barring one whole step and several valves.
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:18 pm
by niconitram
I believe that the 1991 NY Phil recording conducted by Sinopoli (Deutsche Grammophon) has Warren Deck playing Bydlo on an F.
I might be wrong though...
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:36 pm
by kprinz
I live in Texas. I've heard the Pictures played twice. San Antonio Symphony with Lee Hipp. According to some of his students he was playing on a tenor tuba, but in my youth it looked like an F tuba. Austin Symphony did it a year or two ago. Steve Bryant played it on a Yamaha Euphonium. Both good performances, both not on F tuba (or I guess at least one case that I can ACTUALLY confirm.) I tend to agree with you Rick that it works better on smaller members of the tuba family.
Re: What commercial recordings have the tuba play Bydlo?
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:44 pm
by Carson McTeer
Check out the Cincinnati Symphony recording with Paavo Jarvi. Pete Link plays a FANTASTIC Bydlo!