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Brass Band transposition question

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:17 pm
by AHynds
Hello, one and all.

Starting on Wednesday, I'll be rehearsing with the Madison Brass Band, and I have a question about the transposition. For the first time, I'm playing the Eb part on an Eb tuba--would I be correct in thinking that, when I see the transposed part, I read the piece as if it were concert clef, with the C below the treble clef staff being my open Eb? As an example, if I were to see a key signature with one sharp, would I play all of my (concert pitch) As with the second valve, (for A natural)? Same for key signatures with flats. Sorry if this question is a little convoluted, but I just want to double check my transposition knowledge.

Thanks,
Aaron H.

P.S., to put it another way, would I use the same fingerings if I played the treble clef parts at concert pitch and down two octaves on my CC tuba? I do that often as it is, so it wouldn't be that difficult to translate those fingerings to the Eb tuba, with practice.

Re: Brass Band transposition question

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:19 pm
by TubaNerd88
The easiest way I taught myself when I started playing in a brass band for the Eb bass part is to read it in bass clef, but add 3 flats.

Re: Brass Band transposition question

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:54 am
by aqualung
The "easiest way" is not really the best way, because you would have to change some accidentals (i.e. TC C natural = BC E flat)

The foolproof way is to actually read the treble clef, and use standard cornet fingerings. Or do as you say in the P.S., read down 2 octaves and use the CC fingerings.

Dave Woolpert, the principal euph in the MBB can show you the ropes. You'll do fine.

Re: Brass Band transposition question

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:37 am
by Bob Kolada
Read it as trumpet fingerings, but make a mental note to smack your teachers in the back of the head next time you see them.

Re: Brass Band transposition question

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:07 am
by bbocaner
AHynds wrote: For the first time, I'm playing the Eb part on an Eb tuba--would I be correct in thinking that, when I see the transposed part, I read the piece as if it were concert clef, with the C below the treble clef staff being my open Eb? As an example, if I were to see a key signature with one sharp, would I play all of my (concert pitch) As with the second valve, (for A natural)? Same for key signatures with flats. Sorry if this question is a little convoluted, but I just want to double check my transposition knowledge.

P.S., to put it another way, would I use the same fingerings if I played the treble clef parts at concert pitch and down two octaves on my CC tuba? I do that often as it is, so it wouldn't be that difficult to translate those fingerings to the Eb tuba, with practice.
yes and yes

have fun!

Re: Brass Band transposition question

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:56 am
by tclements
If you are playing an E-flat part, on an E-flat tuba, simply use trumpet fingerings (or baritone TC).