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As far as truly small CC tubas go, these are the only ones I'm aware of:

Miraphone 184 CC
Yamaha YCB-621
Kanstul Model 902
Conn 2j

There really don't seem to be very many small CC tubas out there. Are there any I'm forgetting or overlooking?

I suppose one could include the William Bell model Meinl-Weston and maybe the Miraphone 185 CC as well, but those are both getting closer to 4/4.

Thanks,
Christian

By truly small do you mean 3/4 or 1/2? That phase makes me think of those tiny MW student Bb's while I think of what you've listed as normal small/3/4 tubas.

I always thought this was small, but at least the bell size listed here is bigger than I though. Have never seen one in person.

http://hornguys.com/tubacc.php#LCB%20702

Also, I think Cerveny makes a model smaller than the Piggy... I think someone here has one, and calls it the Piglet.

Bob Kolada wrote:By truly small do you mean 3/4 or 1/2? That phase makes me think of those tiny MW student Bb's while I think of what you've listed as normal small/3/4 tubas.

I'm just wondering if there are any other instruments available that are as smallish as the 184 CC or 621 Yamaha. If one wants to call that small 3/4 or 1/2 or whatever, that's AOK.

Rudy 3/4, but that's pretty similar to a 185 in size.

The Cerveny Opera model would fall into that category.

Roger

Cerveny makes a small CC besides the Opera mentioned above.

http://www.cerveny.biz/tuben/cc_tuben/acb_483_4.php" target="_blank"

It is a small CC instrument and I have heard it called a "Piglet" because it is a similar shape to the "Piggy" but smaller.

Last year sometime, Dillon's had one of these used and it was supposed to be pretty good for what it was.

Also, the Weril J681 3/4 CC:

One you might have forgotten:

http://www.jestaedt-instrumente.de/modell83.htm

TheHatTuba wrote:Rudy 3/4, but that's pretty similar to a 185 in size.

I wouldn't put the Rudy in this group. Playing a Rudy 3/4 back-to-back with a Mirafone 186 (a classic 4/4 horn) puts them in the same ballpark in terms of sound and size, albeit with a different character.

I spent some of my university years on a Mirafone 184, which was, at least to my memory, a lot of fun. Easy to light up the sound when you step on the volume, which is neat.

Andrew

bloke wrote:Seemingly, only one manufacturer seems to take this assignment serious enough to make their instrument fully-chromatic - with five rotors.

What are you thinking of? The Cerveny Opera?

muttenstrudel wrote:

bloke wrote:Seemingly, only one manufacturer seems to take this assignment serious enough to make their instrument fully-chromatic - with five rotors.

What are you thinking of? The Cerveny Opera?

The 184 I cut my teeth on had 5 valves. Methinks that's what Bloke had in mind...

Andrew