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ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:05 pm
by brassbow
ok what is the pro/cons of the differnt pitched tubas? ie CC BB EEb F?????
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:46 pm
by iiipopes
Noooooooooooooooo....
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:04 pm
by Kevin Hendrick
brassbow wrote:ok what is the pro/cons of the differnt pitched tubas? ie CC BB EEb F?????
Having never pitched a tuba myself (bad throwing arm), I'd guess it comes down to overhand vs. underhand ...

Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:19 pm
by bearphonium
One of the motorcycle forums that I belong to has a category of "Useless, Pointless, Recurring Threads" on which a person's post count doesn't count towards their total. Just sayin'.
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:06 pm
by jonesbrass
KiltieTuba wrote:Kevin Hendrick wrote:brassbow wrote:ok what is the pro/cons of the differnt pitched tubas? ie CC BB EEb F?????
Having never pitched a tuba myself (bad throwing arm), I'd guess it comes down to overhand vs. underhand ...

I prefer spinning around and then letting go to achieve a longer distance. Although with those newer replicas, you can really put some power behind it to get 'em at least ten feet, maybe more if it's a 3/4.
I prefer to hold the bottom bow in my hands and toss it end-over-end as far as I can . . . if it doesn't make a complete rotation, it doesn't count.
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:25 pm
by TheHatTuba
I disagree, I think it'd be MUCH easier to throw a smaller tuba
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:41 pm
by Mwtuba32
bloke wrote:Next year at the Army conference, they should sell tickets to a YCB-826S toss...
...with the proceeds going to the old tuba players retirement home.
Count me in.
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:55 pm
by iiipopes
jonesbrass wrote:I prefer to hold the bottom bow in my hands and toss it end-over-end as far as I can . . . if it doesn't make a complete rotation, it doesn't count.
You must have Scottish ancestry for the Caber.
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:17 pm
by Trevor Bjorklund
It seems that as important (if not more) than the size is the bell design. Bell forward seems less aerodynamic. However, a detachable bell would be a definite advantage so you can pitch it in two pieces... I regularly reduce things (via sawzall) in order to pitch them.
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:39 pm
by circusboy
I believe there are some models that should be pitched and feathered.

Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:03 pm
by brassbow
tuba toss rules
1. Maximum 3 spins in a circle.
2. feet must remain in designated circle
3. Bounces count
4. Extra points if the tuba produces a tone in flight, the lower the better. Artificial membranes in the mouthpiece to create such tones are not allowed.
So now getting back to the original concept what is the advantage/disadvantage of a CC BB Eb F tuba.
I like the Eb because I am mostly an upper brass man (Hangs head) "forgive me I have Sinned" I read the paper as treble cleff and change the key signature down a 3rd (C=A, F=d etc)
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:07 pm
by aqualung
There are no advantages to F, Eb, CC, or BBb. Just disadvantages.
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:28 pm
by tubeast
On this other recent thread, people talk about detachable bells, leadpipes and whatnot.
When it comes to hitting more people with one hurl, it may be benefitial to loosen all screws before taking aim...
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:29 pm
by tubacrow
Does it count as a scratch, if the bell comes off the horn before the rest of the horn is thrown?
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:39 pm
by brassbow
in the case of removable bells, bell must must be at least 26% of the distance thrown. this rule was the result of the great sousaphone controversy during the tuba toss of 1909 when a sousaphone was first introduced to the games. Special note Bertha Wanger, nee Conn won the tournament at a distance of 17 feet 3 inches.
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:52 pm
by ken k
reminds me of the old joke, "What is the range of a tuba???"
15 feet if you have a good arm....
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:55 pm
by brassbow
The 15 foot mark is to qualify for the tuba games.
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:05 pm
by brassbow
You should also be aware that the Glascow convention to be held in 2013 will discuss if helicons should be band from compition as they fly much like a frisbee. The conns are that the bell acts as a break to the gyroscopic spin and there for aerodynamics are thus canceled.
Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:39 pm
by brassbow
Showing proper tuba toss form
After

Re: ADVANTAGE?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:05 pm
by jonesbrass
iiipopes wrote:jonesbrass wrote:I prefer to hold the bottom bow in my hands and toss it end-over-end as far as I can . . . if it doesn't make a complete rotation, it doesn't count.
You must have Scottish ancestry for the Caber.
Yep! Gotta love those highland games!