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Re: Tuba sound projection in marching band/drum corps?

Postby KiltieTuba » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:35 pm

Dutchtown Sousa wrote:
KiltieTuba wrote:Get the LM-12

The new design kicks a$$

Pretty much anything that is deep in not good for projection. If I could make a mouthpiece, I'd make something like the LM-12 but even shallower just to see...

So the LM-3 would not be good for trying to play loud? Well I guess that helps me narrow down what I want to try out


One of my section mates was playing on essentially a Bach 24 or 26, I forget which, then he tried out the LM-12... Liked it enough to buy a new one. When it finally was shipped to him, he (and his wife) immediately noticed a difference during his personal practice. He found he could blow at a mezzo-forte dynamic and the sound would come out at one dynamic louder.

Another section mate was playing on a Helleberg - those are just a bit deep for projecting to 40,000 footballers. I lent him my LM-11 (LM-12 with a different rim, the old style), for a week and he also bought a new LM-12.

Two more of the section are looking into getting the LM-12, both will be trying it out during next rehearsal (while I play on my Sellmansberger Solo - which works great on the 345 and the 46K).
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Re: Tuba sound projection in marching band/drum corps?

Postby Dutchtown Sousa » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:51 pm

KiltieTuba wrote: Another section mate was playing on a Helleberg - those are just a bit deep for projecting to 40,000 footballers. I lent him my LM-11 (LM-12 with a different rim, the old style), for a week and he also bought a new LM-12.

I use Helleberg and must agree a lot of the time it feels like I'm putting in more than I am getting out in marching band situations
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Re: Tuba sound projection in marching band/drum corps?

Postby daytontuba » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:51 am

Yup - 20K is correct - I will use my glasses the next time I type!!!
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Re: Tuba sound projection in marching band/drum corps?

Postby Dutchtown Sousa » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:55 pm

daytontuba wrote:Yup - 20K is correct - I will use my glasses the next time I type!!!

Well I'm sure the Conn 20J is nice but wouldn't be too easy to march
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Re: Tuba sound projection in marching band/drum corps?

Postby muttenstrudel » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:05 pm

My experience is that the bigger the horn is that you are tooting in and the lower you play the softer it gets, the more you are losing the sound in the fields. Play in a middle range (like from kontra Bb to f) and you'll be heard. I can serve an entire marching band with my Knoth F (built in 1950's) which has a comparatively small bore but a very present projection of sound especially in the middle range of a tuba. The mouthpiece I use is a Josef Klier 5E, which is the shallowest they offer. So the hint with the Loud-LM12 has the same direction: Shallow MP, loud sound.
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Re: Tuba sound projection in marching band/drum corps?

Postby bloke » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:17 pm

KiltieTuba wrote:Two more of the section are looking into getting the LM-12, both will be trying it out during next rehearsal (while I play on my Sellmansberger Solo - which works great on the 345 and the 46K).


The most terse-sounding mouthpiece isn't always what those who are listening to you will like the best. "marching band/drum corps" is still a musical performance, and not a war. (Wow...Even Bruckner 7 should - possibly...?? - be thought of as a musical experience.)

OK...personally...?? (and we all know what "opinions" resemble)

I usually use (unless I forget and grab something else) the "Imperial" with my sousaphone, which is an Elkhart-style 36K (the loudest sousaphone that I've found, and which CAN balance with James Sexton's L-O-U-D and ASTONISHING snare drumming.







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Re: Tuba sound projection in marching band/drum corps?

Postby bloke » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:17 pm

KiltieTuba wrote:Two more of the section are looking into getting the LM-12, both will be trying it out during next rehearsal (while I play on my Sellmansberger Solo - which works great on the 345 and the 46K).


The most terse-sounding mouthpiece isn't always what those who are listening to you will like the best. "marching band/drum corps" is still a musical performance, and not a war. (Wow...Even Bruckner 7 should - possibly...?? - be thought of as a musical experience.)

OK...personally...?? (and we all know what "opinions" resemble)

I usually use (unless I forget and grab something else) the "Imperial" with my sousaphone, which is an Elkhart-style 36K (the loudest sousaphone that I've found, and which CAN balance with James Sexton's L-O-U-D and ASTONISHING snare drumming.







http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=James+Sexton+drums&oq=James+Sexton+drums&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=youtube.3...1233l4622l0l4766l18l18l0l3l3l0l139l1295l13j2l15l0.
Ask about or order Sellmansberger mouthpieces at 901-465-4739 or click the email icon.
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Re: Tuba sound projection in marching band/drum corps?

Postby playa242 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:58 am

muttenstrudel wrote:My experience is that the bigger the horn is that you are tooting in and the lower you play the softer it gets, the more you are losing the sound in the fields. Play in a middle range (like from kontra Bb to f) and you'll be heard. I can serve an entire marching band with my Knoth F (built in 1950's) which has a comparatively small bore but a very present projection of sound especially in the middle range of a tuba. The mouthpiece I use is a Josef Klier 5E, which is the shallowest they offer. So the hint with the Loud-LM12 has the same direction: Shallow MP, loud sound.


Can you let us know what's the Cup's depth of the Josef Klier 5E?? I think they are the shallowest next to LOUD mouthpieces. Thanks.
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Re: Tuba sound projection in marching band/drum corps?

Postby k001k47 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:04 pm

It's a funny thing. The less one tries (puts effort into it), the louder it gets.
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