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Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:18 pm
by MartyNeilan
Some time ago, I wanted to order an unlacquered Chinese tuba but was told they did not offer that as an option, and despite several importer's conversations with the factory, unlacquered horns are not yet available.
What kind of lacquer are they currently using on the JB horns? What would be the easiest method of stripping it?
A number of repairmen on this board have worked on these horns, any experiences stripping them?
Thanks,
Marty
Re: Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:27 pm
by tubamlb
Marty
Call Michael at M&M Instruments and tell him what model you need , He can help you with the order
Re: Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:36 pm
by Michael Bush
tubamlb wrote:Marty
Call Michael at M&M Instruments and tell him what model you need , He can help you with the order
Why are you talking about yourself in the third person?
Re: Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:07 am
by Rick Denney
MartyNeilan wrote:Some time ago, I wanted to order an unlacquered Chinese tuba
Okay, I'll bite. Why would you want to do that?
Rick "thinking 'new' and 'shiny' are the only attributes of Chinese tubas not shared by used examples of the instruments they copy" Denney
Re: Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:45 am
by Lectron
You feel imbaressed by the shiny new look and crappy intonation?
Figured it suits an old leaky look better

Re: Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:00 am
by Cameron Gates
Re: Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:15 am
by Lectron
M&M would probably charge you double for selling you one..
..Only for you to find out later that is actually lacquered
Thou I actually like the raw finish, only
real reasons I've
gone for it is price (cheaper!) and easier to work on/mod
Price is hardly an argument on the Chinese horns, but the later might be

Re: Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:26 am
by MartyNeilan
Lectron wrote:You feel imbaressed by the shiny new look and crappy intonation?
Figured it suits an old leaky look better

The "Schillaphone" I had was a very decent horn, with tight valves and good intonation. I would not be ashamed to play that horn ANYWHERE.
In some ways, I thought it was superior to some generations of the actual 186. The only negatives I found were that it was a just little less responsive than the original and the sound seemd a little more "covered." Hence my desire to unlacquer one and see if that made any difference.
Re: Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:43 pm
by tubamlb
Yes , M&M does sell unlacquered Instruments , The prise is right unless you are the person who goes under the name ( Lectron ) who we will charge 2 times the price so He will have something to write about
M&M
Michael
Re: Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:51 am
by Lectron
tubamlb wrote:Yes , M&M does sell unlacquered Instruments , The prise is right unless you are the person who goes under the name ( Lectron ) who we will charge 2 times the price so He will have something to write about
M&M
Michael
Thank you Sire. I do tend to get bored in vacations and could need some new subjects.
But with the modified 600 already costing more than the MOQ I'd rather take i to the source.and even get a logo of choice.
One thing your highness.
This is not about the instrument as I've stated several times that selected models sound fairly good.
It's about your claims and marketing
Re: Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:10 am
by MartyNeilan
MartyNeilan wrote:What kind of lacquer are they currently using on the JB horns? What would be the easiest method of stripping it?
A number of repairmen on this board have worked on these horns, any experiences stripping them?
Thanks,
Marty

Re: Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:51 pm
by MartyNeilan
I am currently eating the extra rotors I removed from my large old German tuba when I swapped in the pistons, and so far I haven't gotten sick from them.
Re: Delacquering a Chinese tuba
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:38 pm
by Lectron
MartyNeilan wrote:
I am currently eating the extra rotors I removed from my large old German tuba when I swapped in the pistons, and so far I haven't gotten sick from them.
Germany's huge on EcoOrganic food
You should be OK
