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Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:52 pm
by Lingon
Those small instruments are nice as is. It would be even more fun if they could be of some use not only at the hotel room or dark nights at home in the kitchen with a mute though. However if using it together with a section of front directed bell instruments as sort of a minicimbasso or whatever there is one thing that might not work ideally. The bell is upwards.
So one question to those that may have some impact, and someting to say, about further development of the model, is there any chance of either a version with exchangeable bells, normal up or forward directed as a 'mini' recording bell, or two different versions?
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:35 pm
by Mark
I've thought about this also. I think a fifth valve would seal the deal for me.
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:39 pm
by Bob Kolada
A recording bell is a cool idea (though I'd still prefer a trumpet shape!

). A compact valve trombone shape might work.
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:51 pm
by PaulTkachenko
Using the bubbie in performance is tough (if you really want to project) because of all the resistance from having it wrapped up so tightly. I don't think a forward facing bell would help that much.
I used it on stage with a microphone and the thing just didnt' 'cut'.
Now a 5th valve would be handy. It's a bit annoying working on things that I might play on my other 5 valved tubas, but have to alter when using the bubbie.
As for a trumpet-vibe thing - that's got to be too heavy to use for any length of time ...
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:02 pm
by Wyvern
Keep the ideas coming! I will look at for future development, although have other completely new models planned
I think 5th valve and forward facing bell should be possible.
Not convinced about market for turning it into trumpet style marching tuba.
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:09 pm
by PaulTkachenko
Water key on the Eb main tuning slide has probably already been mentioned ...
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:14 pm
by Wyvern
PaulTkachenko wrote:Water key on the Eb main tuning slide has probably already been mentioned ...
I have already asked, but so far have not got anywhere with that one. I believe it is difficult on the tight bend.
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:20 pm
by PaulTkachenko
Pop it on the side ... quick tilt of the instrument and all is sorted. Easier than pulling the damn thing out all the time ...
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:31 pm
by Lingon
Neptune wrote:PaulTkachenko wrote:Water key on the Eb main tuning slide has probably already been mentioned ...
I have already asked, but so far have not got anywhere with that one. I believe it is difficult on the tight bend.
What about the
Saturn Water Key?
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:37 pm
by PaulTkachenko
Telling Nepture about the Saturn water key does sound a bit funny.
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:43 pm
by Lingon
PaulTkachenko wrote:...all the resistance from having it wrapped up so tightly...
Is the tight wrap really the, or the only, thing to blame? What about the small bore? How does it react with a smaller mouthpiece, like for example a Bach 32E or something large bass trombonish?
PaulTkachenko wrote:
...As for a trumpet-vibe thing - that's got to be too heavy to use for any length of time ...
True, one of the good things with Bubbie is the size and style. Besides, there are contra bass trumpets out there, even a Swedish made instrument..., for those that absolutely want to play trumpet style.
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:47 pm
by Lingon
PaulTkachenko wrote:Telling Nepture about the Saturn water key does sound a bit funny.
Does sound good for Moonlight Serenade...
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:21 pm
by PMeuph
PaulTkachenko wrote:Telling Nepture about the Saturn water key does sound a bit funny.
Maybe they could entice Jupiter into making them for him.....
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:58 pm
by greatk82
Or brown and call it.....
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:40 pm
by Bob Kolada
It's odd to read someone saying they're open to innovation but then saying no to exactly that.
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:38 am
by PaulTkachenko
Bass trombone mouthpieces have shank size issues. The best mouthpiece I found was the very deep cup one that came with it.
The narrow bore must also contribute to the stuffiness in performance.
That said, it's still great for practice.
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:01 am
by imperialbari
PaulTkachenko wrote:Telling Nepture about the Saturn water key does sound a bit funny.
Glad you didn’t bring up Uranus.
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:34 am
by PaulTkachenko
How are plans going for a Wessex ophicleide? Now that would be exciting ...
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:36 am
by elihellsten
PMeuph wrote:PaulTkachenko wrote:Telling Nepture about the Saturn water key does sound a bit funny.
Maybe they could entice Jupiter into making them for him.....
I bet it would work perfectly on a Norwegian Star!
Re: Bubbie one step further
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:42 am
by PaulTkachenko
Or a starlight for that matter.