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Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:38 pm
by Daniel C. Oberloh
Happy May yall. I am a little late with the Spring 2012 addition of HP but will make it up to you with a supplemental euphonium addition in the very near future.

I just completed this puppy and thought a few of you would get a kick out of it. What started out in 1914 (or there about) as a three valve top-action 6/4 BBb tuba, made by the J. W. York & Sons Band Instrument Company, has been transformed into a 4+1 front-action BBb. I must admit I am a tad embarrassed at the length of time these projects take but fortunately the folks who commission such work with me are very patient and (for the most part) understanding.

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The original state of this horn was pretty bad. It was adorned with many cracks in the large branches and the bell had been pretty bashed up and had a nasty puncture that had been poorly repaired and patched. Everything from the #6 branch to the mouth-piece receiver was remade (fabricated and built up from scratch) including 90+% of the braces.

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The valve block and rotor valve were supplied by MW the 5th linkage , thumb-ring, etc. and everything else was made in house. The good part about this is that now I have the technical details ironed out, the other two identical projects I have waiting should go a bit smoother.


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Below, For scale, I have a pic of me holding this monster. I am a bit over 6' 4'', the horn is 38'' tall with a bell that is 23'' across. Its big, nuff said? :)

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I was inspired to make a BBb design that was configured similar to the two CC York tubas that belonged to Mr. Jacobs. But instead, I wanted the elusive York #3 to be stylistically the same but configured as a proper BBb model had B. Johnson chose to build one at the time he was creating the the other two. Hey, no one said #3 was in CC. :wink:

Anyway, hope you like the pics.


Best regards,

Daniel C. Oberloh
Oberloh Woodwind and Brass Works
http://www.oberloh.com

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:56 pm
by bisontuba
Amazing work!!
mark

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:15 pm
by bububassboner
Wow beautiful! Do you have a before picture of the horn as well? I bet this thing is an amazing player.

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:43 pm
by Daniel C. Oberloh
This is the same model but not a pic of the same horn. It does however give an idea of what I started with.

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Dan'l

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:49 pm
by acjcf2
Noteworthy!

Jim

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:51 pm
by Art Hovey
I love it, but my (meaningless) vote would be to omit the 5th valve on the next one, or make it removable. That beast must be heavy enough without it.

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:55 pm
by daveinem
So beautiful.

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:27 am
by Daniel C. Oberloh
Ian,
Sometimes we have to strike a balance. The bell is the sound and that is the main reason for this project to begin with. The past bell repairs on this horn were very detrimental to its integrity and proved quite difficult to clean up as the metal was badly stretched and hammered so thin at the point in question that it could only be corrected so much. The blemish in the bell left from the inlay, is a trade off that allowed me the ability to restore the proper shape of the flair and stiffen it to the correct temper.

Patching would have been more unsightly and would not have allowed for the satin finish as the process would have deformed the bell around the patch (if masked) and would have warped the crap out of the patch and the bell if left unmasked masked. Many years of hard earned experience has taught me that when restoring old brass instruments, we can still make them look and play decent but one needs to know the limits and understand that sometimes our desires are not reasonably obtainable.

Dan'l

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:51 am
by tofu
STUNNING!

Almost as sexy as Kate Upton. :lol:

Dan can you tell us how it plays?

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:53 am
by The Big Ben
I've heard this horn. Pretty nice sound.

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:29 am
by Steve Marcus
Dan, without revealing who the owner of the horn is, to what town is it returning?

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:15 am
by toobagrowl
Beautiful tuba :!: Looks brand new.
That tuba looks like one of those extremely rare situations where a vintage horn was safely tucked away in a case for many decades, never used, only to be found in near-mint condition and then polished up! :tuba:

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:12 pm
by skeath
That is one of the most beautiful horns I've ever seen! Nice work!
:tuba:

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:53 pm
by Steve Marcus
This forum and/or the TubaEuph Email List is responsible for coining the terms, "BAT" and even "BART."

Now, Dan, after years of seeing the phrase "horn dorn" on this forum, have you truly filed it as a registered trademark or just had your tongue in your cheek (difficult to play tuba that way)?

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:44 pm
by Daniel C. Oberloh
Steve- No on the ®, its just me being a smart-***. :wink: But, it is a term I came up with long before I introduced it to Tubenet back in Sept of 2005. My shop website has always felt pictures were better then a truck load of boring text and because so, we eventually coined it as horn-dorn. I have always encouraged other Repair Techs to be proud of there work and show off there creations as I was encouraged to do back when I was new to the trade.

Oh yeah, the tuba will be shipped to New York City. Hows that for vague? :lol:

Dan'l

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:23 pm
by scottw
Stunning! You should take pride in turning out something of this caliber. Thanks for sharing.
Scottw

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:49 pm
by ztuba
Prokofiev and Wagner are ready to leave the grave to hear this one in action, I'm sure!

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:00 pm
by Chris Olka
Well Dan.....DAMN! Bravo!

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:28 pm
by JohnSzkutko
Brilliant instrument! Now, please post a video so we can hear it in all its majesty :tuba:

Re: Horn dorn® Spring 2012 J.W. York addition.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:42 pm
by TubaTodd
STUNNING!!!!!